[MAIPC] Poison ivy management

[Carol]

Benadryl gel is great!   

We've found that you can be immune in one part of the country and then get poison ivy in another region, so don't get cocky.  We learned this through Americorps teams who can to work with us.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kathi Mestayer 
  To: David Merkey 
  Cc: dwbealer at yahoo.com ; maipc at lists.maipc.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 6:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Poison ivy management


  p.s. you can get poison ivy in the dead of winter.  I've done it two Januaries in a row.  I'm a slow learner.


  Kathi Mestayer
  KMA Consulting
  105 Gilley Drive
  Williamsburg, Va 23188
  kwren at widomaker.com
  757-229-6575
  757-229-9396 (fax)


  "There are 10 kinds of people -- people who understand binary and people who don't."
  - Anon.






  On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:22 PM, David Merkey wrote:


  Mr. Bealer, 
  (1) Yes, the oils can remain active even if the plants are old and dead. Under NO circumstances should the plants (dried or alive) be burned, the oils can become airborne and breathed in with the smoke, causing the rash in the lungs.
  (2) It depends on where they were discarded and whether or not they and the soil were moist. It is possible that they might re-root. 
  (3) Depending on the situation you are in, the amount of PI you have on site, and the time line you are working with, you might also consider fencing in the area and letting goats eat the PI. They are immune to the toxin. You could also get a dumpster service and place the PI directly in there so that workers would only have to handle it once. Also, again depending on how much you have; sleeve-length rubber gloves might be necessary to protect workers. Lastly, rubbing alcohol dissolves the oil so have plenty of that on hand. Workers will have 15 minutes from the time of contact to clean up with rubbing alcohol to help avoid the rash; all tools should be wiped down at the end of the day. Again, depending of the size of the vines you're working with; if you just have a few big ones, cutting them with hand tools and painting the stump with a brush kill will kill the root so you don't have to dig it up.
  Good luck, 
  David Merkey



  On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:05 PM, <meginnv at yahoo.com> wrote:

    Any thoughts for Mr. Bealer?


    Begin forwarded message:


      From: Dennis Bealer <dwbealer at yahoo.com>
      Date: September 3, 2013, 3:35:10 PM EDT
      To: "info at maipc.org" <info at maipc.org>
      Subject: Poison ivy management
      Reply-To: Dennis Bealer <dwbealer at yahoo.com>


      After 2 hours of web research, it seems that the best way to dispose of poison ivy is to place it in plastic garbage bags and send to a landfill.  Articles discourage burning or composting.  

      (1)
      If we uproot the plants and discard on the surface to dry out, would we endanger other workers who might contact the dead plants in subsequent weeks on the jobsite (since some web articles state that urushiol persists even in dead plants)?

      (2)
      If we uproot the plants and discard on the surface, do you suspect that the discarded plants would re-root, especially considering the approaching autumn leaf fall?
       
      (3)
      Do you agree the best disposal is plastic bags in the landfill?

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