[MAIPC] Poison ivy management

Wed Sep 18 04:59:12 PDT 2013

The urban jungle article reported leaves of three, leave it be. Only if one
stem is longer than the other two. I have had to show this distinction
frequently to prevent wrong decisions. 

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From: maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org [mailto:maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org]
On Behalf Of Rutkosky, Flavia
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:37 AM
To: Randall, John L
Cc: <maipc at lists.maipc.org>; Kathi Mestayer; <dwbealer at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Poison ivy management

Chagrined. . .indeed I did post the wrong link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/metro/urban-jungle/pages/100803
.html

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Randall, John L <jrandall at email.unc.edu>
wrote:

Ha, ha, ha, ha. Is this a dupe or did you post the wrong link? 

Johnny Randall

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On Behalf Of Rutkosky, Flavia
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 5:08 PM
To: Deborah Landau
Cc: Kathi Mestayer; <maipc at lists.maipc.org>; <dwbealer at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Poison ivy management

from today's washington post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/miss-america-firsts-nina-davul
uri-vanessa-williams-and-more/2013/09/16/b6bbfd58-1d8f-11e3-8685-5021e0c4196
4_gallery.html#photo=9

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Deborah Landau <dlandau at tnc.org> wrote:

I'm not a big fan of using rubbing alcohol to clean up from poison ivy
exposure, because it removes all naturally-occurring oils from your skin;
thus, if you are re-exposed that same day (say you touch an unwashed tool,
or you still have some on your clothes), your skin will have no protection
at all.  I like John Ambler's Dawn washing method, my only addition to that
is make sure you don't use hot water (you want to avoid opening the pores in
your skin).  

Good luck to all of us,

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Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:35 PM
To: Carol
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Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Poison ivy management

I was doing english ivy removal both times. The second time, I got it from
leaning against a vine that was on a tree infested with english ivy, that I
was doing an intervention on. Got it through a cotton tshirt; thought I
might've had shingles!

>From Kathi Mestayer's Cellphone

On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:16 PM, "Carol" <Carol2339 at verizon.net> wrote:

Benadryl gel is great!   

We've found that you can be immune in one part of the country and then get
poison ivy in another region, so don't get cocky.  We learned this through
Americorps teams who can to work with us.

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From: Kathi Mestayer <mailto:kwren at widomaker.com>  

To: David Merkey <mailto:dhmerkey at gmail.com>  

Cc: dwbealer at yahoo.com ; maipc at lists.maipc.org 

Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Poison ivy management

p.s. you can get poison ivy in the dead of winter.  I've done it two
Januaries in a row.  I'm a slow learner. 

Kathi Mestayer

KMA Consulting

105 Gilley Drive

Williamsburg, Va 23188

kwren at widomaker.com

757-229-6575

757-229-9396 (fax)

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don't."

- Anon.

On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:22 PM, David Merkey wrote:

Mr. Bealer,  

(1) Yes, the oils can remain active even if the plants are old and dead.
Under NO circumstances should the plants (dried or alive) be burned, the
oils can become airborne and breathed in with the smoke, causing the rash in
the lungs.

(2) It depends on where they were discarded and whether or not they and the
soil were moist. It is possible that they might re-root. 

(3) Depending on the situation you are in, the amount of PI you have on
site, and the time line you are working with, you might also consider
fencing in the area and letting goats eat the PI. They are immune to the
toxin. You could also get a dumpster service and place the PI directly in
there so that workers would only have to handle it once. Also, again
depending on how much you have; sleeve-length rubber gloves might be
necessary to protect workers. Lastly, rubbing alcohol dissolves the oil so
have plenty of that on hand. Workers will have 15 minutes from the time of
contact to clean up with rubbing alcohol to help avoid the rash; all tools
should be wiped down at the end of the day. Again, depending of the size of
the vines you're working with; if you just have a few big ones, cutting them
with hand tools and painting the stump with a brush kill will kill the root
so you don't have to dig it up.

Good luck, 

David Merkey

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:05 PM, <meginnv at yahoo.com> wrote:

Any thoughts for Mr. Bealer?

Begin forwarded message:

From: Dennis Bealer <dwbealer at yahoo.com>
Date: September 3, 2013, 3:35:10 PM EDT
To: "info at maipc.org" <info at maipc.org>
Subject: Poison ivy management
Reply-To: Dennis Bealer <dwbealer at yahoo.com>

After 2 hours of web research, it seems that the best way to dispose of
poison ivy is to place it in plastic garbage bags and send to a landfill.
Articles discourage burning or composting.  

(1)

If we uproot the plants and discard on the surface to dry out, would we
endanger other workers who might contact the dead plants in subsequent weeks
on the jobsite (since some web articles state that urushiol persists even in
dead plants)?

(2)

If we uproot the plants and discard on the surface, do you suspect that the
discarded plants would re-root, especially considering the approaching
autumn leaf fall?

(3)

Do you agree the best disposal is plastic bags in the landfill?

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