[MAIPC] The Garlic Monster - Third Year Adults and Beyond

Marc Imlay ialm at erols.com
Thu Jun 4 03:30:50 PDT 2015 

That is what I do. I carry a trowel for the one in 10 that does not come out
easy when I pull. Marc


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From: MAIPC [mailto:maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org] On Behalf Of Margaret
Chatham
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [MAIPC] The Garlic Monster - Third Year Adults and Beyond

Or you could continue to pull the basal rosettes, but have a pair of pliers
in your pocket to extract the roots immediately if they break off. I still
like the idea of being able to fit a thousand pulled plants into a grocery
bag instead of having to lug a large garbage bag around.

On 6/3/15 12:27 PM, "Bailey, Whitney - FS" <whitneybailey at fs.fed.us
<mailto:whitneybailey at fs.fed.us> > wrote:

> After having pulled every basal floret I saw for 2 months early this 
> spring, and then seeing hundreds of dwarf plants pop up,  I would 
> hypothesize that "dwarves" are created when the basal floret or adult 
> plant is pulled, but some roots are left behind.  Therefore I'm 
> thinking to stop pulling florets and only apply Round-up to them, as 
> dwarf flowering plants are much harder to find, and thus more likely 
> to live long enough to set seed.  I'll continue to pull adults, but 
> will expect that if the root breaks off, that I'll have another plant
there the next year.
> 
> Whitney Bailey
> Forest Ecologist
> Forest Service
> Monongahela National Forest
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> To: "Ellis, Michael" <Michael.Ellis at pgparks.com
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> This discussion makes me wonder about two things:
> 
> 1. Could we unwittingly be creating selection for those "super" Garlic 
> Mustard plants that are able to survive having the main stem broken 
> off and develop viable seeds from resprouts later?
> Similarly I have wondered whether we may be creating selection 
> pressure for dwarfism as we pull the most prominent plants. I find many
flowering dwarves.
> 
> 2. Given the reports of allelopathic properties of GM, folks have 
> suggested that it is undesirable to leave roots in place since they 
> presumably contribute to the release of the allelopathic agents. This 
> may be an additional argument in facor of maximizing effort to get the
roots out.
> 
> Cheers,  Steve Young, "Arlington Steve"
> MAIPC Treasurer
> Blog: Plantwhacker.com
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> 
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Ellis, Michael 
> <Michael.Ellis at pgparks.com <mailto:Michael.Ellis at pgparks.com> >
> wrote:
> 
>>  As we begin to wrap up our Garlic Mustard season, I've become 
>> fascinated by the resiliency of the species.
>> 
>>  I'm seeing tremendous numbers of garlic mustard adults surviving 
>> into a third year if their stems were broken off in the year prior. 
>> Their wounds simply heal, their roots become massive and they sprout 
>> new stems and seeds.
>> 
>>  Here is a photo I took today in Beltsville of a specimen that 
>> survived our great Garlic Mustard pull of 2014, healed, and re-emerged:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would this not imply that these plants can come up again, possibly a 
>> fourth of fifth year if seeding was unsuccessful?
>> 
>>  This has me wondering if plants could bounce back after damage from 
>> say, an introduced biological control.
>> 
>>  Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Michael Ellis
>> Non-Native Invasive Plant Specialist
>> Natural and Historical Resources Division, Park Ranger Office The 
>> Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission 
>> www.pgparks.com <http://www.pgparks.com> 
>> 
>> 240-429-5042
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