[MAIPC] MAIPC Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4

Richard Gardner rtgardner3 at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 5 03:11:28 PST 2015


Turn bamboo removal into a community service.  Perhaps even get the local garden club involved because of the many uses for cut bamboo in yards and gardens.  We use cut and dried bamboo for trellises in the vegetable garden.  It can be used for irrigation pipes, bee houses, wind chimes (ugghh!) and many other purposes.  Schools and community centers can use it in unique art projects.  Maybe the local SCA chapter (kingdom, fiefdom?) can be convinced to become Asia centered instead of Europe centered in some of its events and make bamboo body armor, ... from it.  Suggest the local organic food stores harvest the young shoots for eating.  These are a few of the many ways bamboo can be used as it is removed and in some cases be turned into a profit.

                                                                                                                              Richard Gardner
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On Wed, 11/4/15, tomnjan2 at comcast.net <tomnjan2 at comcast.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [MAIPC] MAIPC Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4
 To: "Greg Johnson" <gjohnsonconsulting at gmail.com>
 Cc: maipc at lists.maipc.org
 Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 11:43 PM
 
 Clearly,
 it doesn't grow anywhere near any of his investment
 properties. I wonder if he's familiar with the potential
 property mortgage harm that invasives present in the
 UK. http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-3074709/ I've
 discussed bamboo, specifically, with our state legislature
 representative because he's personally familiar with
 coping. My suggestion was to introduce a change to the
 Maryland real estate listing requirements for any property,
 that is that the listing clearly state that the property has
 bamboo growing. While it might not matter to a mortgage
 company yet, it could impact the selling price and at least
 give the buyer some heads up on what else they're
 buying. The government wouldn't be forcing a property
 owner to remove or mitigate, but if the owner thought it
 would affect the selling value then I believe we would start
 to see voluntary bamboo removal. 
 Jan SteinerFrom: "Greg
 Johnson" <gjohnsonconsulting at gmail.com>
 To: maipc at lists.maipc.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:06:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [MAIPC] MAIPC Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4
 
 It really is a social war.
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    1. Response to lobbyist post to MMG to oppose
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 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:00:45 -0500
 
 From: HTI Gmail <historictimekeepers at gmail.com>
 
 To: "maipc at lists.maipc.org"
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 Subject: [MAIPC] Response to lobbyist post to MMG to oppose
 bamboo
 
         control regs
 
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 Below is my response and the post that prompted my response
 to a Mr.
 
 Parrish. I am also going to send it to MAIPC. It was sent to
 the
 
 Maryland Master Gardner list.
 
 
 
 
 
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
 I happened to see Mr. Parrish's post and felt compelled
 to set the
 
 record straight.
 
 
 
 Mr. Parrish is simply on the wrong side of this issue. 
 He claims to be
 
 concerned about the rights of property owners, when in fact
 he is only
 
 concerned about the rights of a select few.  How does
 he protect MY
 
 rights to not have an adjoining neighbor's invasive
 plants escape onto
 
 my property?  Who pays for the damage done to MY
 property?
 
 
 
 The inconsistency aside, it is apparent Mr. Parrish does not
 understand
 
 the impact of non-native invasive plant species, nor I am
 sure he even
 
 understands the difference between invasive and non-invasive
 plants.
 
 
 
 Many non-native ornamental plants are not invasive: 
 They do not
 
 aggressively disperse and then displace native plants if
 they escape
 
 into the wild.  Bills such as the one proposed address
 plants considered
 
 INVASIVE.  In fact, state legislatures such as
 Connecticut have been
 
 enacting legislation that proscribes the sale and import of
 plants that
 
 have been added to a list after a process that includes
 nurserymen,
 
 ecologists and landowners.
 
 
 
 Perhaps Mr. Parrish does not travel much in the backcountry
 where plants
 
 like Japanese Barberry has taken hold after being dispersed
 by birds.
 
 Such plants raise the pH of the forest floor (making it less
 hospitable
 
 to forest plants), out compete native plants like Mountain
 Laurel and
 
 remove a food and nesting source for insects and larger
 wildlife from
 
 the habitat.  See attached photo.
 
 
 
 Bamboo stands, barberry, and tree of heaven infestations can
 be found
 
 throughout the Mid Atlantic forest.
 
 
 
 The National Park Service spends millions of dollars each
 year
 
 eliminating invasive plants that escape from home
 landscapes.  This
 
 money could be better spent on programmatic
 activities.  How does Mr.
 
 Parrish account for those costs?  Why should MY tax
 dollars go to
 
 controlling a problem HE wants to perpetuate simply because
 he fears he
 
 or his clients can be held accountable? I happen to think
 personal
 
 accountability is a cornerstone of community.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 
 Dewey Clark, Ph.D.
 
 Club Naturalist
 
 Co-District Manager (PA)
 
 Potomac Appalachian Trail Club
 
 Maryland Master Naturalist
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  > Subject:     Baltimore
 County's BAMBOOzle
 
  > Date:     Tue, 3 Nov 2015 12:54:05
 -0500
 
  > From:     Ian Parrish <president at investorsunited.com>
 
  > To:     umebaltimorecountymg at umd.edu
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  > Hi John,
 
  >
 
  > Good talking with you last week. As promised,
 here's a copy of Baltimore
 
  > County Bill 81-15, the bamboo bill, introduced by
 Councilman Wade Kach:
 
  >
 
 <http://resources.baltimorecountymd.gov/Documents/CountyCouncil/bills%202015/b08115.pdf>http://resources.baltimorecountymd.gov/Documents/CountyCouncil/bills%202015/b08115.pdf.
 
  > It's a silly but irksome little bill.  I
 had hoped that the Extension
 
  > would have been consulted on this, so when I
 found out that they hadn't,
 
  > I wrote the brief below.  Feel free to use
 it in part or in whole as you
 
  > see fit.  I look forward to talking with you
 again, soon.
 
  >
 
  > Ian
 
  >
 
  > ===
 
  > In a nutshell, Baltimore County Bill 81-15, the
 bamboo bill introduced
 
  > by Councilman Wade Kach,bans all species of
 bamboo within 20 yards of a
 
  > property line, even species with clumping roots
 that don't spread
 
  > rapidly. It also appears to ban bamboo even if
 it's contained in a
 
  > planter, even if a root barrier is used, and even
 in if two neighbors
 
  > sharing a property line enjoy it as a landscaping
 feature.  If
 
  > Councilman Kach has his way, Baltimore County
 property owners in
 
  > violation can be fined up to $1,000 per day.
 
  >
 
  > The real estate owners and developers in the
 Investors United network
 
  > which I represent OPPOSE Bill 81-15 for several
 reasons, the most
 
  > significant of which is that the bill infringes
 on private property
 
  > rights.  The bill also fails to respect due
 process inasmuch as legal
 
  > remedies are already in place for citizens with a
 grievance against a
 
  > neighbor's land use. Also in place for use by
 citizens are the valuable
 
  > resources for dealing with invasive species
 offered by the University of
 
  > MD Extension, the agency of record for such
 issues; the councilman would
 
  > have known about those resources had he not
 failed to consult with the
 
  > Extension prior to his introduction of this
 drastic measure.  (The MD
 
  > Emergency Response Pan for Invasive Forest Pests
 is another such
 
  > resource, among others.)  Perhaps the worst
 part of this bill is that it
 
  > disproportionately penalizes the disabled, the
 elderly, the poor, and
 
  > those who might not even be aware of the presence
 of bamboo on their
 
  > property. Ironically, Baltimore County itself is
 likely to be one of the
 
  > worst violators of all, thereby penalizing
 taxpayers even further.
 
  > Finally, the bill sets a precedent for the ban of
 dozens of plant
 
  > species which, while classified as
 "invasive", are also manageable with
 
  > the proper education - just like bamboo.
 
  >
 
  > Therefore, weencourage our Baltimore County
 friends and neighbors to
 
  > contact Councilman Kach's office and to
 instruct their County Council
 
  > representatives to OPPOSE this bill.  As of
 today, it is scheduled for a
 
  > vote on Monday 11/16 at 6pm.
 
  >
 
  > Ian Parrish, President
 
  > Investors United
 
  > ===
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 
 Dewey Clark
 
 Club Naturalist
 
 Co-District Manager (PA)
 
 Potomac Appalachian Trail Club
 
 Maryland Master Naturalist
 
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