[MAIPC] MAIPC Digest, Vol 56, Issue 3 Arum Italicum
Kathryn Peterson- Lambert
triplam747 at aol.com
Tue Jun 7 13:04:38 PDT 2016
There is plenty of comparison study on the shallowness of root growth in the coastal lower elevation wetland areas as compared to drier more elevated areas. Yes, it may be that it is geographical also, we are more southerly on the coastal plain (cp). That is always a very valid point as I am in a more 'wet' location thus all roots become shallow - trees, plants, tubers, etc.Getting rid of the fruit on the spadix would help - it erased a large section that I did not wish to have growing. The trick is to catch it as soon as the fruit appears. Remove the fruit completely - cut and carry. Otherwise, sometimes the chemicals will only create a resistance from these very hardy plants and they will simply 'hide' until the next crop 'reappears'. On others, of course since I have been experimenting - I wish to contain and remain.
Kathryn Peterson Lambert
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From: Mark Frey <runcator at gmail.com>
To: frazmo <frazmo at gmail.com>
Cc: Kathryn Peterson- Lambert <triplam747 at aol.com>; maipc <maipc at lists.maipc.org>
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2016 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: [MAIPC] MAIPC Digest, Vol 56, Issue 3 Arum Italicum
I have found it very hard to control although we have had some luck reducing it with triclopyr + metsulfuron.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:22 PM, frazmo <frazmo at gmail.com> wrote:
I don't agree that Italian Arum is easily controlled or that it "disappears." Yes, the leaves are primarily only out in the cool season and then wither away in the warm season, which is when the flowering spike appears, But the plants produce abundant bulbs or corms that remain underground. I believe, although I can't prove, that critters spread the bulbs as well as the seeds. So removing the flowering spikes may be helpful but it will not eliminate the plants or prevent their spread. I see this plant becoming increasingly abundant in Arlington Virginia's natural areas and even in my own back yard. I think it is a significant invasive of concern at least in the DC area of the Mid-Atlantic and it is not yet clear how best to control it.
Cheers, Steve Young of Arlington VA
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Kathryn Peterson- Lambert <triplam747 at aol.com> wrote:
Arum italicum hybridizes with the maculatum. Belongsto the family Araceae, it is native to the Med/lower Europe, U.K., Netherlands. I was growing it experimentally in a wet, woodland area to see if I could hybridize with Arrow - the native - it didn't take. It dies back in the summer and one can simply control it by gathering all of its red fruit * (berries are poisonous to humans, use gloves).* It is easily controlled by collecting and removing all of the fruit. Also, it 'disappears' completely - both original species and the hybrid after it grows fruit in the summer. It makes a very short lived appearance. Instead of control with herbicide one can replace it with the native Peltandra virginica - Arrow Arum - it will grow in the same conditions after one removes the fruit-berries of the non-native or Symplocarpus foctidus (skunk cabbage).
Kathryn Peterson-Lambert
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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:47:53 -0400
From: "Marc Imlay" <ialm at erols.com>
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Subject: [MAIPC] FW: We Need a New Model for Parks
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From: Mike Vandeman [mailto:mjvande at pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 3:30 PM
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Subject: We Need a New Model for Parks
To: The East Bay Regional Park District Board
I've been spending many 5-6-hour days cutting Italian thistle (if you've
ever had a close encounter with Italian thistle, you won't want to ever
repeat it!), poison hemlock, & French broom in Claremont Canyon Regional
Preserve ("Preserve"? It's not being preserved!). Exotic plants are taking
over our regional parks, and the fauna are very scarce. Many people have
thanked me, but so far no one has volunteered to help. The park staff are
cutting the grass around the edge of the park (to reduce the fire danger),
but not addressing the exotics that are spreading (and going to seed) in
every grassy area. The goats help, but leave all the large stems, which I
have had to cut myself.
It occurs to me that our model of a park is obsolete. Everyone comes to the
park, enjoys himself/herself, but, with very rare exceptions, doesn't lift a
finger to maintain the park. We expect the park staff to do all of that.
But, as you know, you don't have the staff to do that. This model just
doesn't work! You should advertise for volunteers (this kind of work is very
easy, just time-consuming), and expect all visitors to lend a a hand - just
as we do when we visit someone's home, or bus our own dishes in the
cafeteria.
The only alternative is to tax the community enough to pay for all the
services the parks require. (That wouldn't be popular, but the public should
presented all the options. Ruining the parks is not acceptable!)
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans
("pure habitat").
Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and
road construction.)
Wildlife must be given top priority, because they can't protect themselves
from us.
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Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:02:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MAIPC] FW: We Need a New Model for Parks
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From: Mike Vandeman [mailto:mjvande at pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 3:30 PM
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Subject: We Need a New Model for Parks
To: The East Bay Regional Park District Board
I've been spending many 5-6-hour days cutting Italian thistle (if you've
ever had a close encounter with Italian thistle, you won't want to ever
repeat it!), poison hemlock, & French broom in Claremont Canyon Regional
Preserve ("Preserve"? It's not being preserved!). Exotic plants are taking
over our regional parks, and the fauna are very scarce. Many people have
thanked me, but so far no one has volunteered to help. The park staff are
cutting the grass around the edge of the park (to reduce the fire danger),
but not addressing the exotics that are spreading (and going to seed) in
every grassy area. The goats help, but leave all the large stems, which I
have had to cut myself.
It occurs to me that our model of a park is obsolete. Everyone comes to the
park, enjoys himself/herself, but, with very rare exceptions, doesn't lift a
finger to maintain the park. We expect the park staff to do all of that.
But, as you know, you don't have the staff to do that. This model just
doesn't work! You should advertise for volunteers (this kind of work is very
easy, just time-consuming), and expect all visitors to lend a a hand - just
as we do when we visit someone's home, or bus our own dishes in the
cafeteria.
The only alternative is to tax the community enough to pay for all the
services the parks require. (That wouldn't be popular, but the public should
presented all the options. Ruining the parks is not acceptable!)
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans
("pure habitat").
Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and
road construction.)
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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:51:06 +0000
From: Patricia Greenberg <pgreenberg at reston.org>
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Hi,
I have a resident who is concerned about invasive species in his yard. Yay! I do not know much of anything about violets so I wanted to reach out to you all to see if you had suggestions on whether there is cause for concern about the species in the attached photos.
Thank you,
Patricia
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From: Larry [mailto:lssnowhite at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 11:17 AM
To: Patricia Greenberg
Subject: Violets??
Here are pictures of what may or may not be violets -- the biggest cluster --1 & 3 -- is about 11" high. The last is what I know is a wild violet. I can also bring you a plant if that would help a identify it.
Thanks again,
Larry
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