[MAIPC] MAIPC Digest, Vol 109, Issue 1

Thu Nov 5 12:49:48 PST 2020

Here in zip 21013 the deer eat orbiculata orientalis (oriental bittersweet) but not enough to kill it off or keep it from colonizing the tree canopy.   I feel that they have ravaged everything more noticeably and aggressively than in prior years - tomato vines, Kousa dogwood, Hydrangea bretschneideri, Hydrangea arborescens (but not my fancy hydrangeas so much!), wineberry,  jewelweed (impatiens capensis), Phytolacca americana  - the native variety (and they particulary like var. 'Silberstein' which is heavily variegated, and 'Sunnyside up'  slightly less.)   Rosa virginiana is ravaged  as is Sambuccus 'Black Lace'. 
Tiiu Mayer, citizen scientist and native plant lover

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  1. Oh deer (Marc Imlay)
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A decade or so ago deer were reported being killed except for a few found
consuming Microstegium vimineum.  Have any results been reported of
selection for genetically modified deer or new herds trained to eat deer?
Marc

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We find at Herrontown Woods in Princeton that deer will eat the new growth
sprouting from stumps of winged euonymus. I saw what looked like a deer
eating the leaves of privet the other day. Along with GMD's (genetically
modified deer?), is it possible that deer could be trained through exposure
to more tender versions of invasives to become acclimated/accustomed to
eating the mature foliage? Perhaps there are studies in which animals are
given mixes containing increasing amounts of an otherwise rejected food
source, until they begin to consider it agreeable? With stiltgrass and
other invasives providing such a vast potential food source, there's clear
reward for anything that adapts to consume them.

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> A decade or so ago deer were reported being killed except for a few found
> consuming Microstegium vimineum.  Have any results been reported of
> selection for genetically modified deer or new herds trained to eat deer?
> Marc
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I have noticed that deer will browse on arboescent English ivy, but not on English ivy that grows on the ground.  English ivy vines on trees will be stripped of their leaves up to the browse line, but the ivy on the ground is untouched.  English ivy will be stripped off of fallen trees as well.  I wonder if something happens chemically when E. ivy arboizes to make the leaves more palatable to deer.

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We find at Herrontown Woods in Princeton that deer will eat the new growth sprouting from stumps of winged euonymus. I saw what looked like a deer eating the leaves of privet the other day. Along with GMD's (genetically modified deer?), is it possible that deer could be trained through exposure to more tender versions of invasives to become acclimated/accustomed to eating the mature foliage? Perhaps there are studies in which animals are given mixes containing increasing amounts of an otherwise rejected food source, until they begin to consider it agreeable? With stiltgrass and other invasives providing such a vast potential food source, there's clear reward for anything that adapts to consume them.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 10:34 AM Marc Imlay <ialm at erols.com<mailto:ialm at erols.com>> wrote:
A decade or so ago deer were reported being killed except for a few found consuming Microstegium vimineum.  Have any results been reported of selection for genetically modified deer or new herds trained to eat deer? Marc

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