[MAIPC] Coevolution between invasive and native species

Mon Sep 6 04:50:40 PDT 2021

Thank you! I must have auto--correct in my brain, because I read "fodder".
I have written many reviews
<https://www.newscompanion.com/search?q=invasive> of books, articles, and
NY Times opeds that bash habitat restoration.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 2:57 AM Kathy Daniel <kdaniel20816 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I hate spell check. I wrote fodder not folder. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>
> On Sep 6, 2021, at 2:55 AM, Kathy Daniel <Kdaniel20816 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And Steve Hiltner what an incredible book review that was (
> http://rdcu.be/HSal). You really nailed the author and all of the others
> promoting “embracing change” (i.e., invasive non-native species). I
> recommend your review to everyone on the MAIPC listserve. It gives us good
> folder in defense of our work. Thanks Steve! Kathy Daniel
>
> PS I also love your blog PrincetonNatureNotes.org
>
> On Sep 6, 2021, at 1:53 AM, Kathy Daniel <Kdaniel20816 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Great work, Pia!! I am going to start transplanting some of my violets,
> too. I don’t have enough golden ragwort yet to transplant, but it is the
> perfect replacement for the ucky English ivy we are pulling up in the park.
> I will also transplant some of our plentiful Virginia creeper, which would
> be another good substitute. Thanks for the inspiration! Kathy Daniel
>
> On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:58 PM, Pia van de Venne <pia.parkprotector at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello, referring to plant natives from other states in locations of
> eradicated invasives, how about robust plants that are right in our area,
> already growing close or next to the invasives.
> I transplant dozens of small golden ragworts and striped white violets.
> This violata striata is extremely easy to transplant; it was taking over
> our entire lawn and now, in a different area I am pulling out the
> ground ivy and planting violets. Ground ivy is terrible.
> Along shady park roadsides I have planted golden ragwort, violets, and
> some path rush. I notice more ferns growing in those areas too.
> Pia van de Venne, Murrysville PA
>
> Today's Topics:
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>>    1. Intriguing new research: Coevolution between invasive and
>>       native species (Kathy Daniel)
>>    2. Re: Intriguing new research: Coevolution between invasive and
>>       native species (Nathan Hartshorne)
>>    3. Re: Intriguing new research: Coevolution between invasive and
>>       native species (Stephen Hiltner)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 06:25:27 -0400
>> From: Kathy Daniel <kdaniel20816 at gmail.com>
>> To: "MAIPC Listserve (maipc at lists.maipc.org)" <maipc at lists.maipc.org>
>> Subject: [MAIPC] Intriguing new research: Coevolution between invasive
>>         and native species
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>> https://news.uga.edu/coevolution-between-invasive-native-species-062812/
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>> To: Kathy Daniel <kdaniel20816 at gmail.com>
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>> " He explained that removing invasive species and replanting natives often
>> results in failure but replacing invasive species with native plants from
>> an area where the plants have had time to adapt to the invader could be
>> more effective. Rather than replanting clearweed from a recently invaded
>> site in Michigan, for example, land managers could use plants from New
>> York
>> that are more likely to be resistant to garlic mustard."
>>
>> It certainly gives us a lot to think about in terms of
>> wildlife management.  At the same time, we wouldn't want to shrink the
>> genetics of a species, but there might be a balance.
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>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 6:26 AM Kathy Daniel <kdaniel20816 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> https://news.uga.edu/coevolution-between-invasive-native-species-062812/
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>> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 09:33:56 -0400
>> From: Stephen Hiltner <stevehiltner at gmail.com>
>> To: Nathan Hartshorne <nshartshorne at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Kathy Daniel <kdaniel20816 at gmail.com>,  "MAIPC Listserve
>>         (maipc at lists.maipc.org)" <maipc at lists.maipc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Intriguing new research: Coevolution between
>>         invasive and native species
>>
>> Thanks for sharing this article. FYI: There's a book called Inheritors
>> of the Earth that claims to be optimistic because nature might heal itself
>> in a million years. It claims that conservation efforts are doomed to
>> failure, so we should embrace the change. I wrote a review <
>> http://rdcu.be/HSal> for
>> Biological Invasions.
>>
>> It would be strange to go to the trouble of replanting if one is
>> assuming the garlic mustard will simply recolonize. We've had good luck at
>> our preserve with removing garlic mustard before it goes to seed.
>> We're basically playing the role we wish deer would play. Persistence
>> furthers if
>> one's means are in balance with the scope of the problem. Glad to
>> hear, though, of evidence of some coevolution.
>>
>> Steve
>> PrincetonNatureNotes.org
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:15 AM Nathan Hartshorne <nshartshorne at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> > " He explained that removing invasive species and replanting natives
>> > often results in failure but replacing invasive species with native
>> plants
>> > from an area where the plants have had time to adapt to the invader
>> could
>> > be more effective. Rather than replanting clearweed from a recently
>> invaded
>> > site in Michigan, for example, land managers could use plants from New
>> York
>> > that are more likely to be resistant to garlic mustard."
>> >
>> > It certainly gives us a lot to think about in terms of wildlife
>> > management.  At the same time, we wouldn't want to shrink the genetics
>> of a
>> > species, but there might be a balance.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 6:26 AM Kathy Daniel <kdaniel20816 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> https://news.uga.edu/coevolution-between-invasive-native-species-062812/
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