<html><head><base href="x-msg://6/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">yeah, me, too. The glyphosate makes the stiltgrass crispy pretty quickly. <div>then you just keep an eye on the area for a couple of years, and you're done.</div><div>btw, a botany/geometry word problem based on stiltgrass></div><div>As we know, stiltgrass propagates by sending up a few stems, and then at the end of the growing season, each stem falls outward in a series of rays, from the center. So, what is the formula for the increase in area of stiltgrass in a given growing season?</div><div>k</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 23, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Randall, John L wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Palatino; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#000000"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Bret: I use exactly the same approach.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Johnny<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Landandforest<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, September 23, 2013 3:21 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:rachel@fohvos.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">rachel@fohvos.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [MAIPC] Stiltgrass control<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">While smothering is feasible, you would smother other plants as well. While treating Japanese stilt grass with a 0.5% solution of aquatic labeled glyphosate will kill stilt grass and leave natural regeneration without harm.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "> Bret Robinson<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; "><br>On Sep 23, 2013, at 12:37 PM, <<a href="mailto:rachel@fohvos.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">rachel@fohvos.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Hi Marc,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">In forest habitats, Stiltgrass is usually controlled by shade cast by native seedlings, shrubs and small trees, as well as herbs and grasses. Most of these forms of plant life are browsed excessively, however...<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">In deer exclosures, jewelweed is a great control method. Is deer management an option on the preserve and adjacent parcels?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">On a very limited basis, I have smothered the seeds with oak leaves removed from my driveway. I placed the leaves in a forest exclosure beneath a red maple canopy. This is feasible in garden-like situations.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Rachel<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Rachel Mackow<br>Land Steward / NJISST Central Region Coordinator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Friends of Hopewell Valley Open Space<br>P.O. Box 395, Pennington, NJ 08534<br>Tel: (609) 730-1560 Fax: (609) 730-1561<br><a href="http://www.fohvos.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.fohvos.org</a>/<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote id="replyBlockquote" style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0in; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 6pt; margin-left: 6pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div id="wmQuoteWrapper"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Stiltgrass control<br>From: Bruce Barbour <<a href="mailto:barbour@RCE.Rutgers.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">barbour@RCE.Rutgers.edu</a>><br>Date: Wed, September 04, 2013 10:42 am<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Marc,<br>I notice you did mention herbicides. Research has shown effectiveness of crabgrass pre-emergent herbicides on stiltgrass and, if the site warrants it, you can also kill stiltgrass with post emergent selective grass herbicides such as Poast and Fusilaide. Of course, depending on your state law and the material selected there may be a requirement to have the application done by a certified pesticide applicator.<br>Bruce<br>================================================== Bruce Barbour Voice: 908-475-6505 Ag & Resource Management Agent Fax: 908-475-6514 Rutgers Cooperative Extension Mobile: 908-309-7660 RCE of Warren County 165 Route 519 South Belvidere, N.J. 07823-1949 Internet:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Barbour@Aesop.Rutgers.Edu" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Barbour@Aesop.Rutgers.Edu</a>===================================================== Learn more about the Rutgers Environmental Stewards at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://envirostewards.rutgers.edu/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://envirostewards.rutgers.edu/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>On 9/4/2013 8:00 AM, Marc Imlay wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">How is Japanese Stiltgrass control going on in your park?</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">This year I have had the ability to only remove all the Japanese Stiltgrass over 150 acres at the 200 acre Ruth B. Swann Park in Charles county, MD. We</span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>have removed all the stiltgrass every year since 2004. It should be gone since the seed bank is supposed to be only 5 years. When I removed all the stiltgrass in the 200 acre Swann Park in the last decade stiltgrass was gone by the 5th year and almost gone by the 4th year.</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">So what has changed? Climate change is one answer. For the past few years in an open area at Swann Park I would remove all the stilt gras and beefsteak plant in July and come back in late August to remove late emergents. The amount of work in August was only 10% of the amount of work in July. Now it is an equal amount. In fact, I had to remove beefsteak plant 3 times to be sure I got late emergents.</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">Other explanations include deer movement and movement of stiltgrass down streams. 90 % of the massive new populations that have sudenly apppeared at Swann Park are not near streams and not where people use the park. Deer may be more effective in bringing in stiltgrass since the areas contiguous with Swann Park are now covered with stiltgrass so it is easier to come in. So stiltgrass is probably moving in by deer and water from abundant sources from outside of the park.</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">In conclusion, we have three choices. We can apply for a large crew to join us to control stiltgrass.</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">Or we can give up.</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">For a third choice please look for stiltgrass dying from leaf blight. My major concern about waiting for the leaf blight bio-control to become available years from now is stiltgrass moving in to the massive pristine areas of the 200 acre park. </span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; "> </span><strong><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">I found one such patch, about 10' x 20' in early September last year in the middle of Swann Park. I left the contiguous stiltgrass untreated slightly down the hill for about 20' and will check it out next week. If you find such a patch there are researchers that may be interested in looking at the patch.</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; ">Marc Imlay, PhD<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></strong><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; "><br><strong><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Chair of the Biodiversity and Habitat Stewardship Committee for the Maryland Chapter of the Sierra Club.</span></strong></span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; "> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; 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