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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hi Pia, and thank you for all your work! I would strongly recommend removing or killing multiflora roots, as I’ve found that those I cut tend to just put up new sprouts and come back thicker than ever. I’ve also pulled up many roots
that are vastly larger than the sprouts coming off them, which suggests they can survive repeated cutting/browsing over the years. Removing the root balls or killing them through herbicide is the only way I know to ensure no regrowth.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">I would also not recommend re-compacting the earth after disturbance except to refill obvious holes. Intentional compaction beyond what the site already experiences through volunteer activity could suppress native regrowth. Also, if
there is any seedbank of Japanese stiltgrass in the soil, it will germinate aggressively once the soil is disturbed. That’s why I now advocate for killing multiflora roots with herbicide (cut & paint method) rather than pulling the roots out if there is any
stiltgrass in the vicinity.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">I think it’s fine to scatter and/or pile cut invasives, except for those that will re-root or those that will put all their remaining energy into seed production, like garlic mustard. If you are coming back to a gm site year after year,
you can bag plants in black plastic and leave the bags, then pick them up the next year. The heat will kill the seeds.
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:37:18 -0400<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: Pia van de Venne <<a href="mailto:pia.parkprotector@gmail.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">pia.parkprotector@gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: [MAIPC] invasive plant removal<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> <<a href="mailto:CAKm2e1qPx4N4VWei=+nd4fN=h_UgVs1+PqYsYP1n1yhkV9Bf2A@mail.gmail.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">CAKm2e1qPx4N4VWei=+nd4fN=h_UgVs1+PqYsYP1n1yhkV9Bf2A@mail.gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">During the 16 years that I have assisted in the removal of invasive plants, I learned that garlic mustard should be certainly taken out of the woods because of the amount of toxins in the plants. So we bag garlic mustard and most of
the stiltgrass.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">I do believe that none of the non native plant residue is beneficial to the native woods; we have masses of oak leaves and other native debris, so I just hope that piles of multiflora roses, burning bush, barberry, and honey suckle bush
will decompose together with the native plant debris without causing too much harm or slowing down the growth. Our piles are 5ft tall and I lean on them to condense them.Since we have few volunteers we have left behind a lot of pulled out invasive material
in the woods in piles.(They make very good bird and animal shelters.) I pay attention to not allow privet to touch the forest floor. We also compact the ground, disturbed by the digging and pulling, with our feet. I know that some people prefer to cut the
stem and paint, but that is not the issue right now<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">My aim is to leave as much natural area between the piles to give native vegetation the right environment, since we still have tons of small saplings and herbaceous plants growing and exploding when we remove the invasive plants.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">*Question: does it make a difference whether we make these concentrated piles or whether we just spread all the removed branches and roots of invasive bushes over the entire area.*<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">*Question: will planting new saplings between cut multiflora roses without removing or killing the roots make sense? Will the competition of the cut roots not prevent growing of the newly planted saplings?*<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Thank you very much for responding.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Pia van de Venne, Volunteer coordinator Murrysville Parks 724 733 2770<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">From: Richard Gardner <<a href="mailto:rtgardner3@yahoo.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">rtgardner3@yahoo.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">My feelings are that carrying out garlic mustard and?Japanese stilt grass from places like the Appalachian?Trail is?not feasible.? We are doing a garlic mustard removal in early May along the AT near?here.? With 14 miles of trail and?no
vehicle access?along the stretch we will be doing I do not see taking out bags of garlic mustard as possible.? Instead, we will be leaving easily monitored piles as far apart as possible.?Multiflora rose in our area is going extinct due to 2 diseases and a
mite.? The bush honeysuckles are having serious issues here.? Part of my summer research will be to monitor and try to transfer the diseases between plants.? I will be looking for mites as the vector and trying to transfer aphids between plants.?? I found
that last fall when I tried to pull bush honeysuckles out they came without much effort.? We left the plants we pulled out in place with the roots exposed.?Ailanthus altissima in on the list.? I am going to try to see if I can find a volunt eer friendly way
to transfer the diseases between trees.?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Richard Gardner ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> From: Pia van de Venne <<a href="mailto:pia.parkprotector@gmail.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">pia.parkprotector@gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">During the 16 years that I have assisted in the removal of invasive plants, I learned that garlic mustard should be certainly taken out of the woods because of the amount of toxins in the plants. So we bag garlic mustard and most of
the stiltgrass.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I do believe that none of the non native plant residue is beneficial to the native woods; we have masses of oak leaves and other native debris, so I just hope that piles of multiflora roses, burning bush, barberry, and honey suckle bush
will decompose together with the native plant debris without causing too much harm or slowing down the growth. Our piles are 5ft tall and I lean on them to condense them.Since we have few volunteers we have left behind a lot of pulled out invasive material
in the woods in piles.(They make very good bird and animal shelters.) I pay attention to not allow privet to touch the forest floor. We also compact the ground, disturbed by the digging and pulling, with our feet. I know that some people prefer to cut the
stem and paint, but that is not the issue right now My aim is to leave as much natural area between the piles to give native vegetation the right environment, since we still have tons of small saplings and herbaceous plants growing and exploding when we remove
the invasive plants.Question: does it make a difference whether we make these concentrated piles or whether we just spread all the removed branches and roots of invasive bushes over the entire area.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Question: will planting new saplings between cut multiflora roses without removing or killing the roots make sense? Will the competition of the cut roots not prevent growing of the newly planted saplings?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thank you very much for responding.?Pia van de Venne, Volunteer coordinator Murrysville Parks 724 733 2770 _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
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