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<div>And then there is this from The New Yorker:</div>
<div><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/02/10/a-valuable-reputation">http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/02/10/a-valuable-reputation</a></div>
<div>Is it any wonder people don’t know what to believe? </div>
<div>Steve</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>John Ambler <<a href="mailto:john.ambler@verizon.net">john.ambler@verizon.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Steve Young <<a href="mailto:sly27@cornell.edu">sly27@cornell.edu</a>>, "<a href="mailto:MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG">MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG</a>" <<a href="mailto:MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG">MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Glyphosate a carcinogen?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">A couple of people have posted that glyphosate causes cancer. This apparently really has not been shown.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Here is a reasonable article on the subject concerning whether glyphosate may cause cancer.
<a href="http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/roundup-and-risk-assessment">
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/roundup-and-risk-assessment</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It seems to me more relevant to know that in vitro studies show very low toxicity than to know that agricultural workers who spray glyphosate (and
many other more toxic chemicals) can have increased cancer risk. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The review “Environmental Fate of Glyphosate” from the California Department of Pesticide Regulation mentioned by Jon Robinson is excellent, and here
is the link again. <a href="http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/emon/pubs/fatememo/glyphos.pdf">
http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/emon/pubs/fatememo/glyphos.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It is interesting to know that formaldehyde is one of the end products of microbial degradation and that glyphosate is moderately persistent in soil.
High formaldehyde exposure may increase cancer risk, but it is rapidly broken down in air and water according to
<a href="http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/intheworkplace/formaldehyde">
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/intheworkplace/formaldehyde</a>. But it is always good to avoid chemical exposure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">John Ambler<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> MAIPC [<a href="mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org">mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen L. Young<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG">MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG</a>;
<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] Kudzu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/14/us-monsanto-herbicide-idUSKCN0PO2FM20150714">http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/14/us-monsanto-herbicide-idUSKCN0PO2FM20150714</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">MAIPC <<a href="mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org">maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org</a>> on behalf of Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com">ialm@erols.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 6:55 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG">MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG</a>" <<a href="mailto:MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG">MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG</a>>, "<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [MAIPC] Kudzu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The carcinogenic properties of glyphosate went thru extensive reviews and appears to be relatively, low, especially at the low rates we apply it to control invasives.
Does anyone have an updated review.</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Marc</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon W. Robinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 14, 2015 2:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG">MD-CONS-COMM@LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Kudzu</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> Roundup has been found to be a carcinogen. I would hope anyone using it would take appropriate precautions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Jon Robinson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Linda Silversmith <<a href="mailto:linsil@VERIZON.NET">linsil@VERIZON.NET</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"> PS - just Google "how to kill kudzu" - one way apparently is to keep removing the vegetative parts and eventually the core dies too...but you can probably spend
a whole day just reading the hits that come up.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">On 08/14/15,
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Linda</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">On 08/14/15, Jon W. Robinson<<a href="mailto:jonwrobinson@VERIZON.NET" target="_blank">jonwrobinson@VERIZON.NET</a>> wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Here is information on Roundup. <a href="http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/emon/pubs/fatememo/glyphos.pdf" target="_blank">
http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/emon/pubs/fatememo/glyphos.pdf</a><br>
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I think judicious use of Roundup would have minimal impact. I use it to control poison ivy, and some other hard to control vines. I still pull my English Ivy by hand.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;">��</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"><br>
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Jon Robinson<br>
301-648-7141<br>
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> On Aug 13, 2015, at 9:38 PM, Greg Smith <<a href="mailto:gpsmith@IGC.ORG" target="_blank">gpsmith@IGC.ORG</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Friends and neighbors,<br>
> <br>
> My friend's backyard has been hit hard by kudzu, and so has her neighbors'. Other invasives, including porcelain berry, are in the mix, too, but the kudzu dominates in this case.<br>
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> While the kudzu hasn't attacked the trees in my friend's yard, it has begun to carpet the trees in her neighbors'.<br>
> <br>
> I've been ripping and pulling, but I know I'm not getting the root system.<br>
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> I'm loathe to use Round Up or other toxic commercial herbicides.<br>
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> If you have any suggestions for non-toxic or least-toxic ways to knock back and control kudzu, please share.<br>
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> Many thanks,<br>
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> Greg<br>
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