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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Everyone,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just to clarify, the invasives work at Minnewaska was done by NY State Parks, not the DEC. We have found mulching with leaves to be effective at smothering
stiltgrass, but this must be repeated annually. Mulching with wood chips is also effective, and lasts a little longer, but will again succumb to stiltgrass after 2-3 years if not repeated.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This year we also tried what we are calling the “Stiltgrass Shuffle,” where we preform heavy scuffing of the topsoil in order to remove the roots and plant.
The better rooted natives can withstand this and remain. This was done in mid June and mid July here at Minnewaska in 10x10 plots, and those plots are still bare ground, despite being surrounded by stiltgrass on all sides.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Several years ago my supervisor, Bob O’Brien, put some dry ice on the ground under a box and that killed off the stiltgrass for several years, meanwhile the
asters also underneath the box recovered within a few weeks. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dewey<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 28, 2015 1:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> MarneyB<br>
<b>Cc:</b> INVASIVES@listserv.umd.edu; 'MA-IPC MA-IPC'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] FW: Stilt grass question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Marney,<br>
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You may also be getting the "mulch effect". NYS DEC has done work at Minnewaska SP that suggests mulching stiltgrass along trails suppresses it.<br>
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<pre>Regards,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Dewey Clark,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 9/28/2015 12:49 PM, MarneyB wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Oak leaves, too. For the same reasons. I have kept much of my property free of stilt grass by mulching with the leaves from my pin oak (topped with pine needles
so the leaves don’t blow away).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> MAIPC [<a href="mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org">mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ellis, Michael<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 28, 2015 9:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Earl "Bud" Reaves Jr.; tomnjan2<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:INVASIVES@listserv.umd.edu">INVASIVES@listserv.umd.edu</a>; MA-IPC MA-IPC<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] FW: Stilt grass question</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Bud, and I was going to say Hollies and laurels/rhododendrons/azaleas generally prefer to grow in acidic soils. You should also notice less stilt grass growing in pine forests and under large pines due to acidity of decomposing
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd further venture to say the rate of decomposition of the strong holly and laurel leaves may be playing a role. The dense lignin/cellulose content of holly leaves means it takes at least two years for the leaves to break down. My thought
is that these trees may be self mulching and stilt grass may have a hard time establishing in areas of dense, long lasting leaf litter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Non-Native Invasive Plant Specialist<br>
Natural and Historical Resources Division, Park Ranger Office<br>
The Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission<br>
<a href="http://www.pgparks.com">www.pgparks.com</a> <br>
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<a href="tel:240-429-5042">240-429-5042</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Earl "Bud" Reaves Jr. <<a href="mailto:ipreav00@aacounty.org">ipreav00@aacounty.org</a>><br>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 9:30 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [MAIPC] FW: Stilt grass question<br>
To: tomnjan2 <<a href="mailto:tomnjan2@comcast.net">tomnjan2@comcast.net</a>><br>
Cc: MA-IPC MA-IPC <<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:INVASIVES@listserv.umd.edu">INVASIVES@listserv.umd.edu</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS","serif"">I think it may be a soil condition, specifically a low pH from the accumulation of leaf debris. Stilt grass is known to prefer more basic soils.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 8:46 AM, tomnjan2 <<a href="mailto:tomnjan2@comcast.net">tomnjan2@comcast.net</a>> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal">There were areas that little light was clearly at play, but a blanketed grass area with a lone Holly still didn't have grass below. Tree heights were mixed, and many were in significant sunlight as well. This variety of holly is more open
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jan <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My guess is that light limitation is at work. Cole and Weltzin found the same pattern with paw paw (Asimina triloba):
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com">ialm@erols.com</a>> wrote:
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<p><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Any response for Tom and Jan?</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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The Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission<br>
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<p>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: tomnjan2 [mailto:<a href="mailto:tomnjan2@comcast.net">tomnjan2@comcast.net</a>]
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Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:16 AM<br>
To: Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com">ialm@erols.com</a>><br>
Subject: Stilt grass question<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Hi Marc, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Tom (Crone) and I were walking around the back end of Greenbelt Park today. He was checking on some multiflora rose he'd cut earlier as well stilt grass he cut. But I noticed something I hadn't before. There were large swathes of stilt grass that had bare
patches within those areas. The common denominator was Holly tree leaf shed. We started searching elsewhere and found the same correlation. The stilt grass totally avoided wherever the dropped holly leaves landed. Have you seen this before, or know if there's
a specific chemical in the leaf that inhibits or kills the grass? Or some other symbiotic relationship creating the inhibition? I'm really curious to know. As we were driving out of the park, I started looking at the mountain laurel and what I saw didn't seem
to be surrounded by stilt grass either.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Jan Steiner<o:p></o:p></p>
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