<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">yes; I recall reading years ago that a study that reported bad effects on amphibians (and got a lot of press) applied the glyphosate in ways that were not in concert with the labelling and other instructions (too close to standing water, too much applied)>  <div class="">k</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 18, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Stephen Hiltner <<a href="mailto:stevehiltner@gmail.com" class="">stevehiltner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">One factor to consider is quantity. Do the studies test response according to quantity applied? My experience with the anti-glyphosate movement is that it doesn't discriminate between massive applications on farms and much smaller, more targeted applications for habitat restoration. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Steve</div><div class=""><a href="http://princetonnaturenotes.org/" class="">PrincetonNatureNotes.org</a></div><div class=""><a href="http://newscompanion.com/" class="">NewsCompanion.com</a></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Kirsten Johnson <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:kirsten2622@comcast.net" target="_blank" class="">kirsten2622@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>Sorry I can’t help with the glyphosate question - but FYI - you can get a free account with Jstor that allows you to search and read on line, plus save 3 items at a time on your ’shelf.’ Go to the jstor homepage and click “register." You cannot print. However, I have found that articles I’ve first located on jstor are sometimes printable from elsewhere on line. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kirsten</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class="">On Oct 18, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Ossi, Damien (DOEE) <<a href="mailto:damien.ossi@dc.gov" target="_blank" class="">damien.ossi@dc.gov</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_544016597328832336Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class="m_544016597328832336WordSection1" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">I am trying to convince the land managers in my city (Greenbelt, MD) to start managing the invasive plants on some of their land.  I am getting some pushback from a community group that says there’s proof that glyphosate will kill or damage trees and soil biota.  I’ve been looking for published papers that would support of refute their arguments, but have been unable to find much. (I don’t have access to JSTOR, BioOne, etc.) <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">They are citing the following documents:<span class="m_544016597328832336Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">(1) Pennsylvania Extension Service:  Tree roots absorb glyphosate; it has a much longer half-life than when it is in the soil.  A single glyphosate application results in ,persistent stunted leaf growth.<span class="m_544016597328832336Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://extension.psu.edu/use-glyphosate-with-care-near-trees" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">https://extension.psu.<wbr class="">edu/use-glyphosate-with-care-<wbr class="">near-trees</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">(2) Michigan Extension Service: Herbicides that touch the bark of mature, healthy trees may be absorbed by the outer bark and negatively affect the adjacent vascular tissue.<span class="m_544016597328832336Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://msue.anr.msu.edu/news/be_careful_where_you_spray_that_stuff" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">http://msue.anr.msu.<wbr class="">edu/news/be_careful_where_you_<wbr class="">spray_that_stuff</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">(3) Glyphosate interferes with the ability of tree roots to absorb manganese, zinc, iron, and boron from the soil; resulting in root rot, reduced cold hardiness, and reduced drought hardiness.<span class="m_544016597328832336Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://homeguides.sfgate.com/effect-glyphosate-tree-roots-29076.html" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">http://homeguides.<wbr class="">sfgate.com/effect-glyphosate-<wbr class="">tree-roots-29076.html</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Does anyone have any resources that address these issues, or is there any known comprehensive document that reviews and summarizes independent research on the effects on glyphosate in forest ecosystems?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Thanks,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Damien<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size:10pt" class="">Damien P. Ossi<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></b></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt" class="">Wildlife Biologist<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt" class="">Fisheries and Wildlife Division<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt" class="">Department of Energy & Environment<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt" class="">Government of the District of Columbia<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt" class="">1200 First Street NE, 5th Floor<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt" class="">Washington, DC 20002<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt" class="">Desk: <a href="tel:(202)%20741-0840" value="+12027410840" target="_blank" class="">(202) 741-0840</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt" class="">Web:<span class="m_544016597328832336Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.doee.dc.gov/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:blue" class="">doee.dc.gov</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div></div></div><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="">MAIPC mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class=""><a href="mailto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