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<p class="MsoNormal">It is the killer I think…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Try it both ways and report back…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> MAIPC <maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>JANICE STEINER<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 15, 2018 9:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> maipc@lists.maipc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] "alternative solution"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">I get the vinegar and soap, but what function does the salt serve?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On September 15, 2018 at 7:04 AM Mark Frey <<a href="mailto:runcator@gmail.com">runcator@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure I'd agree that your method is necessarily less toxic. Applying salt to the forest could create problems (salting the earth and all of that). You have developed a chemical solution that kills organisms; just because you bought
those chemicals at the grocery store instead of the hardware store doesn't mean they are necessarily safe. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 7:07 PM Milo Pyne < <a href="mailto:Milo_Pyne@natureserve.org">
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<p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-msonormal">I have used a solution of white vinegar (1 gal.), dish soap (1 cup), and table salt (1 TBSP); warm the vinegar to dissolve the salt; add soap; spray on plants…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-msonormal">This is certainly less toxic (and less dangerous to operator and less expensive than commercial alternatives; not naming any names here…).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-msonormal">Works ONLY ON ANNUALS; but it works (I have tested on Microstegium and Kummerowia)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-msonormal"><strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></strong> MAIPC <<a href="mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank">maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org</a>>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On Behalf Of </span></strong>michelskm2016<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sent:</span></strong> Friday, September 14, 2018 5:16 PM<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">To:</span></strong> Susan Gitlin <<a href="mailto:susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu" target="_blank">susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu</a>>; Ben Fischler <<a href="mailto:brf57@yahoo.com" target="_blank">brf57@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [MAIPC] weed whacker plastic<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-msonormal">Thr stilt grass will bloom ans seed anyway no matter how low or often you cut it. Unless you pull it. We gave up on cutting - thr only solution is to pull it- or if you really want to whack those old fashioned metal corrugated
hand whacker are efdeceive and oh so satisfying as you swing it like a scythre through the nasties. <o:p></o:p></p>
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To: Ben Fischler <<a href="mailto:brf57@yahoo.com" target="_blank">brf57@yahoo.com</a>>
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<p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-msonormal">Yes, I guess I should have mentioned that I realized that plastic was being spread all over. But I wonder if you have discussed the ramifications of this. I have land that I am trying to restore, and I live in a floodplain.
What are the ramifications for soil and water?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">On Friday, September 14, 2018 04:22:55 PM EDT, Susan Gitlin <<a href="mailto:susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu" target="_blank">susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu</a>>
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<p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">As I spend yet another afternoon whacking stiltgrass here in Rockbridge County, Virginia, I wonder about where all the plastic from my line is
going. Is this a topic that y'all have discussed? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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