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</head><body><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">I get the vinegar and soap, but what function does the salt serve?</p><p class="io-ox-signature"> <br></p><blockquote type="cite">On September 15, 2018 at 7:04 AM Mark Frey <runcator@gmail.com> wrote: <br> <br><div dir="ltr">Milo<div><br></div><div>I'm not sure I'd agree that your method is necessarily less toxic. Applying salt to the forest could create problems (salting the earth and all of that). You have developed a chemical solution that kills organisms; just because you bought those chemicals at the grocery store instead of the hardware store doesn't mean they are necessarily safe. </div><div><br></div><div>Mark </div></div><br><div class="ox-eaa5e3e679-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 7:07 PM Milo Pyne < <a href="mailto:Milo_Pyne@natureserve.org">Milo_Pyne@natureserve.org</a>> wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div><div class="ox-eaa5e3e679-m_7626621651390327549WordSection1"><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal">I have used a solution of white vinegar (1 gal.), dish soap (1 cup), and table salt (1 TBSP); warm the vinegar to dissolve the salt; add soap; spray on plants…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal">This is certainly less toxic (and less dangerous to operator and less expensive than commercial alternatives; not naming any names here…).<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal">Works ONLY ON ANNUALS; but it works (I have tested on Microstegium and Kummerowia)<u></u><u></u></p><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> MAIPC <<a href="mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org</a>> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>michelskm2016<br> <strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, September 14, 2018 5:16 PM<br> <strong>To:</strong> Susan Gitlin <<a href="mailto:susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu" target="_blank" rel="noopener">susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu</a>>; Ben Fischler <<a href="mailto:brf57@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">brf57@yahoo.com</a>><br> <strong>Cc:</strong> <a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a><br> <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [MAIPC] weed whacker plastic<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal">Thr stilt grass will bloom ans seed anyway no matter how low or often you cut it. Unless you pull it. We gave up on cutting - thr only solution is to pull it- or if you really want to whack those old fashioned metal corrugated hand whacker are efdeceive and oh so satisfying as you swing it like a scythre through the nasties. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; color: #364f67;">Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br> <br> -------- Original message --------<br> From: Susan Gitlin <<a href="mailto:susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu" target="_blank" rel="noopener">susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu</a>> <br> Date: 9/14/18 4:54 PM (GMT-05:00) <br> To: Ben Fischler <<a href="mailto:brf57@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">brf57@yahoo.com</a>> <br> Cc: <a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a> <br> Subject: Re: [MAIPC] weed whacker plastic <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal">Yes, I guess I should have mentioned that I realized that plastic was being spread all over. But I wonder if you have discussed the ramifications of this. I have land that I am trying to restore, and I live in a floodplain. What are the ramifications for soil and water?<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Ben Fischler <<a href="mailto:brf57@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">brf57@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote><div><div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">Little bits of plastic are spread over your landscape.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;">On Friday, September 14, 2018 04:22:55 PM EDT, Susan Gitlin <<a href="mailto:susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu" target="_blank" rel="noopener">susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div id="ox-eaa5e3e679-m_7626621651390327549m_-1522472629123286638ydpb9a418d0yiv3607121977"><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;">As I spend yet another afternoon whacking stiltgrass here in Rockbridge County, Virginia, I wonder about where all the plastic from my line is going. Is this a topic that y'all have discussed? <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;">Thank you!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;">--Susan Gitlin<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #26282a;">_______________________________________________<br> MAIPC mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:MAIPC@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">MAIPC@lists.maipc.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="ox-eaa5e3e679-MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div>_______________________________________________ <br> MAIPC mailing list <br> <a href="mailto:MAIPC@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">MAIPC@lists.maipc.org</a> <br> <a href="http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org</a> <br></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________ <br>MAIPC mailing list <br>MAIPC@lists.maipc.org <br>http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org <br></blockquote></body></html>