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<div>Horticultural vinegar works great on forbs.</div><div><br></div>
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On Saturday, September 15, 2018, 3:14:39 PM EDT, Milo Pyne <Milo_Pyne@natureserve.org> wrote:
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal">Point well taken… I have just done very limited areas in my yard…</p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Mark Frey <runcator@gmail.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 15, 2018 7:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Milo Pyne <Milo_Pyne@natureserve.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> michelskm2016@gmail.com; Susan Gitlin <susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu>; brf57@yahoo.com; maipc@lists.maipc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] "alternative solution"</p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal">I'm not sure I'd agree that your method is necessarily less toxic. Applying salt to the forest could create problems (salting the earth and all of that). You have developed a chemical solution that kills organisms; just because you bought
those chemicals at the grocery store instead of the hardware store doesn't mean they are necessarily safe. </p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal">Mark </p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 7:07 PM Milo Pyne <<a href="mailto:Milo_Pyne@natureserve.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Milo_Pyne@natureserve.org</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal">I have used a solution of white vinegar (1 gal.), dish soap (1 cup), and table salt (1 TBSP); warm the vinegar to dissolve the salt; add soap; spray on plants…</p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal">This is certainly less toxic (and less dangerous to operator and less expensive than commercial alternatives; not naming any names here…).</p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal">Works ONLY ON ANNUALS; but it works (I have tested on Microstegium and Kummerowia)</p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>michelskm2016<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 14, 2018 5:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Susan Gitlin <<a href="mailto:susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu</a>>; Ben Fischler <<a href="mailto:brf57@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">brf57@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] weed whacker plastic</p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal">Thr stilt grass will bloom ans seed anyway no matter how low or often you cut it. Unless you pull it. We gave up on cutting - thr only solution is to pull it- or if you really
want to whack those old fashioned metal corrugated hand whacker are efdeceive and oh so satisfying as you swing it like a scythre through the nasties. </p>
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Date: 9/14/18 4:54 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: Ben Fischler <<a href="mailto:brf57@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">brf57@yahoo.com</a>>
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Subject: Re: [MAIPC] weed whacker plastic </p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal">Yes, I guess I should have mentioned that I realized that plastic was being spread all over. But I wonder if you have discussed the ramifications of this. I have land that I am
trying to restore, and I live in a floodplain. What are the ramifications for soil and water?</p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Ben Fischler <<a href="mailto:brf57@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">brf57@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="ydp1344e6d0yiv1919307200MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">As I spend yet another afternoon whacking stiltgrass here in Rockbridge County, Virginia, I wonder
about where all the plastic from my line is going. Is this a topic that y'all have discussed? </span></p>
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