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<br>From: Richard Gardner <rtgardner3@yahoo.com>
<br>Sent: Sep 22, 2019 7:15 AM
<br>To: Diana Carter <dcarter1776@yahoo.com>, Rod Simmons <rod.simmons@alexandriava.gov>
<br>Cc: "lee@ipc.us.com" <lee@ipc.us.com>, Eileen Grant <granfling@aol.com>, Susan Gitlin <susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu>, "alex@ipc.us.com" <alex@ipc.us.com>, MAIPC Listserve <maipc@lists.maipc.org>, "jimclark5@comcast.net" <jimclark5@comcast.net>
<br>Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Removing stiltgrass after it has gone to seed
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Has anyone considered using horticultural vinegar? It is organic, biodegradable, easy to clean up and much less toxic than most agricultural chemicals.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Saturday, September 21, 2019, 09:50:29 PM EDT, Rod Simmons <Rod.Simmons@alexandriava.gov> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Thanks Susan - good work! This past week we have been foliar-treating Microstegium in the City of Alexandria, Virginia with grass-specific Ornamec (fluzipop), instead of Vantage (sethoxydim).<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Alternatively, Jim Clark and Eileen Grant hand-pulled and bagged a large patch of Microstegium from Forest Park.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I consider the latter method ideal for smaller, incipient populations.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Rod<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Sep 21, 2019, at 9:07 PM, Diana Carter <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:dcarter1776@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">dcarter1776@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi Susan. I’m anxious to hear from those wiser than me, but I’ll share what I’ve done just based on my gut sense of it. First, I think there is a lot more seed production pending based on what I’m seeing. So my sense is to get it out before the whole load drops. On bad infestations I have rolled it up to contain the seeds within the stalks. On milder infestations I have used a tub type container on its side and pushed the stiltgrass in seed first. Then I’ve poured it into large bags which I sneak into the regular trash pickup. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> You make a good point about checking shoes afterwards. I will add that to my method. But I (like you) am hoping to learn from others and see what they are doing at this time of the year. I suppose spraying may be an option but I never use herbicides. I have heard that glyphosate dries out cornstalks late in the season. <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Diana Carter<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Sep 21, 2019, at 8:10 PM, Susan Gitlin <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu" rel="nofollow">susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi. Today I was at a property that is built on and into the edge of national forest land, outside of Waynesboro, VA. This property has some new buildings around which I noticed a bunch of stiltgrass. The forest land surrounding these buildings looked clean of any infestations.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> I mentioned this to the property owner, and he was sincere in his interest in removing the Microstegium. I could not stay there to do the removal myself at the time, but I promised him I would send him information on how to do it.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> However, the plant is now in seed, and all information that I have about stiltgrass recommends removal or weed whacking prior to seed development. That makes sense, of course, but what should I recommend to the property owner? <br></div><div dir="ltr">> a) That he remove and bag it this year? Could that lead to additional spread of the seeds via shoes, bags, etc.? <br></div><div dir="ltr">> b) Or should he wait until next year, thus allowing a thousand plants to release their seeds?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Please share your wisdom.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Thank you.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> --Susan<br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> MAIPC mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:MAIPC@lists.maipc.org" rel="nofollow">MAIPC@lists.maipc.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a target="_blank" href="https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.maipc.org%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fmaipc-maipc.org&data=02%7C01%7Crod.simmons%40alexandriava.gov%7Cb2b6cc2b7ac44b69019908d73ef93b55%7Cfeaa9b3143754aeeadccc76ad32a890b%7C0%7C1%7C637047112482785909&sdata=BMm1Uq9m0x6uXXyQwaAWdWSN%2Fj%2BONHr%2Bl0%2BQlccBY3M%3D&reserved=0" rel="nofollow">https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.maipc.org%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fmaipc-maipc.org&data=02%7C01%7Crod.simmons%40alexandriava.gov%7Cb2b6cc2b7ac44b69019908d73ef93b55%7Cfeaa9b3143754aeeadccc76ad32a890b%7C0%7C1%7C637047112482785909&sdata=BMm1Uq9m0x6uXXyQwaAWdWSN%2Fj%2BONHr%2Bl0%2BQlccBY3M%3D&reserved=0</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> MAIPC mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:MAIPC@lists.maipc.org" rel="nofollow">MAIPC@lists.maipc.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a target="_blank" href="https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.maipc.org%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fmaipc-maipc.org&data=02%7C01%7Crod.simmons%40alexandriava.gov%7Cb2b6cc2b7ac44b69019908d73ef93b55%7Cfeaa9b3143754aeeadccc76ad32a890b%7C0%7C1%7C637047112482795903&sdata=WfLYeLaI9cT4qSbMhKvegpRrjxyVxnGJkSTsYY8EfHw%3D&reserved=0" rel="nofollow">https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.maipc.org%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fmaipc-maipc.org&data=02%7C01%7Crod.simmons%40alexandriava.gov%7Cb2b6cc2b7ac44b69019908d73ef93b55%7Cfeaa9b3143754aeeadccc76ad32a890b%7C0%7C1%7C637047112482795903&sdata=WfLYeLaI9cT4qSbMhKvegpRrjxyVxnGJkSTsYY8EfHw%3D&reserved=0</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">MAIPC mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" href="mailto:MAIPC@lists.maipc.org" rel="nofollow">MAIPC@lists.maipc.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" href="http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org" rel="nofollow">http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org</a><br></div></div>
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