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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Randall, Johnny<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Gardner <rtgardner3@yahoo.com>; Diana Carter <dcarter1776@yahoo.com>; Rod Simmons <Rod.Simmons@alexandriava.gov><br>
<b>Cc:</b> lee@ipc.us.com; Eileen Grant <granfling@aol.com>; Susan Gitlin <susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu>; alex@ipc.us.com; MAIPC Listserve <maipc@lists.maipc.org>; jimclark5@comcast.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] Removing stiltgrass after it has gone to seed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I’ve had good success with the non-systemic herbicide, Ecoblend
</span><a href="https://www.ecoblend.green/">https://www.ecoblend.green/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This product must, of course, be used prior to seed maturation and it “burns” the plants to death! With respect to vinegar, I have read mixed reviews on the potential
harm caused by vinegar to soil microorganisms, which is not the case with glyphosate and most other herbicides. (By the way, a 0.5% glyphosate concentration works nicely on Microstegium and does not often times harm non-target species.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Gardner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Diana Carter <<a href="mailto:dcarter1776@yahoo.com">dcarter1776@yahoo.com</a>>; Rod Simmons <<a href="mailto:Rod.Simmons@alexandriava.gov">Rod.Simmons@alexandriava.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:lee@ipc.us.com">lee@ipc.us.com</a>; Eileen Grant <<a href="mailto:granfling@aol.com">granfling@aol.com</a>>; Susan Gitlin <<a href="mailto:susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu">susan.mclaughlin@alumni.stanford.edu</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] Removing stiltgrass after it has gone to seed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Has anyone considered using horticultural vinegar? It is organic, biodegradable, easy to clean up and much less toxic than most agricultural chemicals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">On Saturday, September 21, 2019, 09:50:29 PM EDT, Rod Simmons <<a href="mailto:Rod.Simmons@alexandriava.gov">Rod.Simmons@alexandriava.gov</a>> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A">> Hi Susan. I’m anxious to hear from those wiser than me, but I’ll share what I’ve done just based on my gut sense of it. First, I think there is a lot more
seed production pending based on what I’m seeing. So my sense is to get it out before the whole load drops. On bad infestations I have rolled it up to contain the seeds within the stalks. On milder infestations I have used a tub type container on its side
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