<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I agree with Todd, on the diesel fuel and treatment method. I would suggest using the premix Pathfinder II for simplicity, I do not like recommending mixing your own for most cases as the premix reduces exposure and clean up. you may find the pre mix or a generic pre mix on state contract. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I find that being around the smell of diesel fuel all day is annoying. <br><div><br></div><div>The other thought is to understand timing. I like the treatment to be on the stump,/ bark within a couple minutes of cutting. Usually cut a few then treat. if you wait then the intake at the stump will be reduced</div><div><br></div><div>Also, I prefer a simple 1 gallon sprayer, easy to set down, and in the undergrowth safety wise, if you trip you can drop it and it won't take you down.</div><div><br></div><div>Good Luck,</div><div><br></div><div>Lane</div><div><br></div></div>Lane Heimer<br>Administrator - Noxious Weed Control<br>Maryland Department of Agriculture<br>50 Harry S Truman Pkwy.<br>Annapolis, MD 21401<br><br>301-667-9376 Cell<br>410-841-5920 Office <br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 9:26 AM Todd Hagenbuch <<a href="mailto:thagenbuch@arborchem.com">thagenbuch@arborchem.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Anne:<br>
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First thing I noticed is that your using diesel fuel with the Garlon 4 Ultra. May a suggest a more environmentally refined basal oil to go with the Garlon 4 Ultra(25%). We carry Arborchem Basal Oil (75%), just about all veg. management herbicide distributors have a basal oil commercially available. Treatment of larger stems, I would cut and leave a stub (6 inch or so) and treat the surface and the remaining bark on the stub. For small vines, it wouldn't be necessary to remove them, you could treat the vines up from ground line to 12" up the vine, less for really small vines. If you want to see how to do proper basal and cut stump applications, please view my video below. Caution should be used not to get the spray on to the bark of desirable trees. <br>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEAzXaa6fX8" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEAzXaa6fX8</a><br>
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Best Regards,<br>
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Todd Hagenbuch<br>
Veg Mgmt Specialist & Sales Manager<br>
Arborchem Products<br>
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West Chester, PA 19382<br>
570-401-7098<br>
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I’m currently working on a project at Cacapon state park in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia. The project involves cutting orientalist bittersweet vines that are growing up trees and applying garlon 4 (triclopyr) mixed with diesel to the surface of the cut vine encircling the vine and to the ground.<br>
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We worked on the project last weekend and plan another work trip mid November.<br>
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The area where we are working also has numerous areas of “undergrowth” of vines. I was told best to use foliar spray in late summer and then cut vines. However in summer lots of other underbrush and ticks and snakes.<br>
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Instead can these shorter vines be killed and controlled in November?<br>
If these vines are cut close to the ground if herbicide garlon 4 is applied will it kill the vines? How close to the ground do these undergrowth vines need to be cut. How should spray be applied surface or all the way down to the ground?<br>
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Thanks for getting back to me on this.<br>
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Anne Wakeford<br>
WVDNR Biologist<br>
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