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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Glenn: I battle both of these species and am winning on Perilla and on Microstegium in upland patches. My answer to your question is to remove the plants before
they flower, which is in the fall for both. (I never understand why so many wait until fall to do this, in a panic, given that there’s 6 months for removal prior to flowering and seed set!)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> MAIPC <maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Glenn Tobin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> frazmo <frazmo@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> APWG <apwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org>; MAIPC <maipc@lists.maipc.org>; Lily Fountain <lily.fountain@mdsierra.org>; INVASIVES@listserv.umd.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] Microstegium versus Perilla, August 30 2020<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Question for the group: I work in an area where it is very difficult to bag up invasives and haul them out. At this stage of the year, I run across perilla or microstegium that is obviously late in it's life cycle. The question is:
<u>At what stage do the seeds for these species become viable, so pulling the parent plant out literally would not reduce it's seed production?</u> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Even if all the seeds will be viable, there still may be value in pulling-- it seems to me that creating a bundle and sticking it somewhere inhospitable will result in less spread than if they are out and being dragged around by every critter
that passes by. I find myself with the same question about long-bristled smartweed, Artemesia annua or vulgaris, and in the spring, garlic mustard. <u>Does anyone have an approach for deciding when is it better to just leave these standing and deal with
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 3:07 PM frazmo <<a href="mailto:frazmo@gmail.com">frazmo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My recent observations of Perilla suggest it is spreading down floodplains very aggressively and may join Japanese Knotweed as a despoiler of stream and river banks. In Arlington VA we are seeing lush Perilla plants growing at least 3-5
feet tall, seeming to thrive on the floodplain soil and poised to produce enormous seed loads.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 5, 2020, 10:58 AM Kathleen Michels <<a href="mailto:michelskm2016@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelskm2016@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just see Perilla spreading EVERYWHERE! In addition to meadows and woods It's even in our Wheaton urban parking garage garden far away and isolated by lots of asphalt and concrete from any gardens or natural areas. Like barberry it's
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<p class="MsoNormal">exploding over every natural and non natural area we look! <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 2, 2020, 8:27 AM Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 13, 2020 1:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> MAIPC <<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] Microstegium versus Perilla, August 30 2020<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Remember allelopathy! A quick web search seems to show there is some literature indicating that Perilla has allelopathic properties. That could help to explain the how/why on the
observations of Perilla patches appearing to outcompete Microstegium.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">My quick peek also reminded me about the very alarming toxicity of Perilla. For example, it is a serious poisoning hazard to livestock. I guess that may help to explain deer avoiding
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 3:34 PM Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Japanese stiltgrass is easy to pull out unlike many of the native competitors. One reason it grows fast is because
it puts it’s energy into growing fast rather than maintaining strong roots. So how can we change things so that the native competitors outcompete stiltgrass because they have stronger roots? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 31, 2020 12:01 PM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> MAIPC <<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] Microstegium versus Perilla, August 30 2020<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We also noticed this in the field Marc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">For whatever reason- Perrilla seems to outcompete JSG.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 8:37 AM Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Microstegium versus Perilla</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I came across a huge mono-culture of Japanese stiltgrass about 25% of an acre. In the middle of the patch was a monoculture
patch of Beefsteak mint about 15 feet x 20 feet with almost no stiltgrass. There were two other beefsteak patches about 5 x 10 feet with no Microstegium. Is this just one non-native invasive outcompeting another one? Or is there another possibility that could
be explored? For example, reintroduce Mentha arvenis. Any potential biocontrol?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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