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    <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Johnny,<br>
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        I agree with Jil that the screen frame is a great idea. What
        size mesh do you recommend for Ficaria verna and what size for
        Arum italicum? You should go into business -- I would definitely
        buy one of each from you.<br>
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        BTW, I was just trying to convince a neighbor on Saturday to get
        rid of the A. italicum she'd planted on her property, but she
        didn't want to hear what I was saying. She said it was filling a
        bare slope that was eroding. And, she's even helped with a
        native plant symposium for ~30 years, and noted that it was
        spreading to another person's yard. In addition, I had just
        warned another neighbor in February about the Italian arum that
        his landscaper had planted for him in 2020. I'm wondering
        whether this difficult-to-eradicate invasive is becoming
        increasingly popular.<br>
        <br>
        Judy</font><br>
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        Judith P. Fulton<br>
        EcoPlant Consulting: Native and Invasive Plants<br>
        Master Gardener, University of Maryland Extension<br>
        Chair, Maryland Invasive Species Council's Committee on
        Invasives Lists<br>
        Board, Mid-Atlantic Invasive Plant Council<br>
        Voice: 410-337-3701, Text only: 410-404-8201<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/1/2021 9:31 AM, Jil Swearingen
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Johnny,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">That's a
          great idea! Tell us more about the size of the mesh screen
          you've found to work best for filtering out the tubers.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Jil</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 8:53 AM
          Randall, Johnny <<a href="mailto:jrandall@email.unc.edu"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jrandall@email.unc.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">Ruth:
                  Jil is unfortunately correct! We haven’t found a
                  herbicide treatment that works very well.
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">I
                  recommend building a screening frame with the proper
                  hardware cloth dimension for trapping tubers, but
                  allowing soil to sift through. (I’m building some of
                  these now for Ficaria verna diggings….) The only thing
                  you’re putting in the trash is vegetation and not
                  heavy soil.  </span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt">Johnny  </span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> MAIPC <<a
                    href="mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org</a>>
                  <b>On Behalf Of
                  </b>Jil Swearingen<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 1, 2021 8:43 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Ruth Douglas <<a
                    href="mailto:cvilleruth@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">cvilleruth@gmail.com</a>><br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> MAIPC Listserve <<a
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                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] Italian Arum</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Ruth,</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">That
                      plant is a monster. Italian arum is or was at the
                      national arboretum (that's where I first got to
                      know it about a decade ago). It's very hard to get
                      rid of. It's best to dig plants up - you have to
                      get ALL the underground tubers and bag and dispose
                      of the material in a landfill. You could leave it
                      in the bags for a while to let it rot before
                      disposal. It would be best to remove most of the
                      soil in the area where the plants are, if that's a
                      possibility. That would help ensure removal of all
                      tubers.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Here's
                      a good fact sheet from the State of Washington.</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt"><a
                        href="https://www.nwcb.wa.gov/weeds/italian-arum"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.nwcb.wa.gov/weeds/italian-arum</a></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Thanks,</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 8:33 AM
                    Ruth Douglas <<a
                      href="mailto:cvilleruth@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">cvilleruth@gmail.com</a>>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Help! A well-meaning person
                        or persons planted Italian arum (Arum italicum)
                        an unknown number of years ago at my church, and
                        it's been spreading. I've seen the Maryland info
                        on this plant (<a
                          href="http://mdinvasives.org/iotm/nov-2015/"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://mdinvasives.org/iotm/nov-2015/</a>)
                        and  it's discouraging about how to get rid of
                        it. </p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">However, no mention is made
                        of tarping or laying black plastic on areas
                        where it is spreading. Has anyone tried this,
                        and if so, with what success? I know its
                        underground structures can be fairly deep, but
                        does that preclude use of this technique?</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Any advice is welcome.</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Ruth Douglas</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Charlottesville, VA</p>
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