<div dir="ltr">I'm never one to say don't control invasives, but it is worth pointing out that deer often provide a lot of control of japanese honeysuckle, especially when they are overpopulated, which is pretty common. So depending on the browse you see, you can even focus on other species. One big drawback of deer fences for restoration projects is that I would then have to deal with a lot of honeysuckle climbing up the baby trees. Obviously the control the deer provide isn't perfect, so it's good to do your sprays anyways, but it's rare when we can enjoy deer doing something so good, so I like to bring it up.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 12:18 PM Hamersky Business <<a href="mailto:william@skyhammer.com">william@skyhammer.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Thanks for the speedy replies everyone! <div><br></div><div>I was using 2-3% glyphosate. </div><div><br></div><div>If it matters, I have the option of Candor or 3-D to use on these guys.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>
<div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Geneva;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">William Hamersky<br>Skyhammer<br>470 Taylors Gap Rd<br>Charlottesville, VA 22903<br><br>cel: 415. 516. 2560<br><br><a href="mailto:william@skyhammer.com" target="_blank">william@skyhammer.com</a><br><br>“The Ash, having fibres tenacious and strong,<br>Teaches me firm resistance, to battle with wrong."<br> Helen O. Hoyt<br><br></div></div></div></div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Apr 13, 2021, at 7:36 AM, Mark Frey <<a href="mailto:runcator@gmail.com" target="_blank">runcator@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">William<div><br></div><div>It really depends heavily on the herbicide used. Some herbicides travel in roots and some don't. Some herbicides travel far in soils and some don't. I don't know of research applicable to runners in particular but there are certainly many research projects on efficacy of herbicide X on species Y. </div><div><br></div><div>I just did a quick search in Google Scholar and found a few old resources for this species in particular:</div><div>Regehr, D. L., & Frey, D. R. (1988). Selective control of Japanese honeysuckle (Lonicera japonica). Weed Technology, 139-143.<br></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Evans, J. E. (1984). Japanese honeysuckle (Lonicera japonica): a literature review of management practices. </span><i style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Natural Areas Journal</i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">, 4-10.</span><br></div><div><a href="https://www.invasive.org/gist/esadocs/documnts/lonijap.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Nuzzo, V. (1997). Element stewardship abstract for Lonicera japonica. </span><i style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Nature Conservancy, Arlington, VA</i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">.</span></a><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><br></div><div>The Element Stewardship Abstracts are usually very useful for management. These documents were being produced back when TNC had a robust invasive species program and I have found them to be very useful for decades. Obviously, new research is not captured in these documents and some of the chemicals outlined in them and not ones many natural area managers would like to use if they could be avoided. But, they are a good place to start.</div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div>Mark</div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 10:00 PM Hamersky Business <<a href="mailto:william@skyhammer.com" target="_blank">william@skyhammer.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi All,<div>New to the MAIPC list mail, but have been reducing invasives on my property for the 6 years I’ve lived in Virginia, and also belong to Blue Ridge PRISM. </div><div><br></div><div>I’ve been foliar spraying young J honeysuckle sprouts on the farm for a few days now and was wondering if anyone has info or knows of research on “just how far” the herbicide can travel along the runners before it is no longer effective? I’m guessing you all know that you can pull up one young sprout and have 3, 4, 5, or more runners attached to it, many with other “sproutlets” attached that will eventually root and create independent plants. Incidentally, when I did occasionally pull up a sprout attached with runners, often their small “siblings" were invisible under the leaf litter. </div><div><br></div><div>So my question is: is there any research out there showing the efficacy of herbicide treatment on invasive runners? Is it worthwhile to herbicide treat these groups of plants, or just keep pulling and pulling (exposing lots of bare soil in the meantime and who knows how many other weed/invasive seeds!) and see how far I can go… hopefully not to the next county.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks so much for any help/input/direction!</div><div><br><div>
<div dir="auto" style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir="auto" style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div dir="auto"><div style="font-family:Geneva;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">William Hamersky<br>Skyhammer<br>470 Taylors Gap Rd<br>Charlottesville, VA 22903<br><br>cel: 415. 516. 2560<br><br><a href="mailto:william@skyhammer.com" target="_blank">william@skyhammer.com</a><br><br>“The Ash, having fibres tenacious and strong,<br>Teaches me firm resistance, to battle with wrong."<br> Helen O. Hoyt<br><br></div></div></div></div>
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