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</b>Nathan Hartshorne<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 5, 2021 4:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Gardner <<a href="mailto:rtgardner3@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rtgardner3@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b>  Re: [MAIPC] Ailanthus Herbivory<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What looks like tree of heaven, has similar bark, and is tree-sized?  I will do some comparative looking.  I only know the various sumacs and black walnut.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 10:40 AM Richard Gardner <<a href="mailto:rtgardner3@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rtgardner3@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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 a distinctive look on all the leaves. Obviously it's not deer, and the moths seemed wrong too based on what little imagery I could find and general knowledge of feeding behavior (which I realize there must be more exceptions than moths I know)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,56,100)">Dave</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(50,62,79)">David R. Jackson</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(50,62,79)">Forest Resources Educator</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href="mailto:drj11@psu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">drj11@psu.edu</span></a>         814-355-4897(office)</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathan Hartshorne<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 2, 2021 7:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> MAIPC Listserve (<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>) <<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [MAIPC] Ailanthus Herbivory<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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