<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 5, 2021, at 4:57 PM, Scamardella, David <<a href="mailto:dscamardel@pa.gov" class="">dscamardel@pa.gov</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Butternut bark does stay smooth until about 4 to 5’’ diameter:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span id="cid:image001.png@01D771BE.D94BAFE0"><image001.png></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class="">Dave Scamardella<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class="">| Forester<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class="">PA Department of Conservation and Natural Resources<br class="">Buchanan Forest District<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class="">25185 Great Cove Road | McConnellsburg, PA 17233<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class="">Phone: 717-485-3148 X207 | Fax: 717-485-9283<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: 15.399999618530273px;" class=""><b class=""><span style="color: rgb(237, 125, 49);" class=""><a href="x-msg://16/www.dcnr.pa.gov/Conservation/ForestsAndTrees/ManagingYourWoods" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(237, 125, 49);" class="">www.dcnr.pa.gov/Conservation/ForestsAndTrees/ManagingYourWoods</span></a></span></b><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">cell: 717-860-0646<o:p class=""></o:p></b></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MAIPC <<a href="mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Nathan Hartshorne<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, July 5, 2021 4:32 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Richard Gardner <<a href="mailto:rtgardner3@yahoo.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rtgardner3@yahoo.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MAIPC Listserve (<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>) <<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> Re: [MAIPC] Ailanthus Herbivory<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">What looks like tree of heaven, has similar bark, and is tree-sized? I will do some comparative looking. I only know the various sumacs and black walnut.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 10:40 AM Richard Gardner <<a href="mailto:rtgardner3@yahoo.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rtgardner3@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">That is not Ailanthus because the compound leaf is not odd pinnate, the notches are wrong and it is too rough.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_3484268182644867018ydpe9d2ee1yahoo_quoted_5787855350" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">On Monday, July 5, 2021, 01:06:57 PM EDT, Nathan Hartshorne <<a href="mailto:nshartshorne@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nshartshorne@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div id="gmail-m_3484268182644867018ydpe9d2ee1yiv0203793969" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">The most likely one seemed to be the mite, except it's also called "leaf curl mite" not "patterned hole mite" so I'm still at a loss as to what could do such a distinctive look on all the leaves. Obviously it's not deer, and the moths seemed wrong too based on what little imagery I could find and general knowledge of feeding behavior (which I realize there must be more exceptions than moths I know)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div id="gmail-m_3484268182644867018ydpe9d2ee1yiv0203793969yqt28844" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 9:19 AM Jackson, David Robert <<a href="mailto:drj11@psu.edu" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">drj11@psu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">Could be ailanthus webworm.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><a href="https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAilanthus_webworm&data=04%7C01%7Cdscamardel%40pa.gov%7C033530c665a14de7dad708d93ff3ed2b%7C418e284101284dd59b6c47fc5a9a1bde%7C0%7C0%7C637611139750258333%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=giKrCjmeIAaY8x617a9RKtVxi3nnoWR5ETtw898Yjyw%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ailanthus_webworm</a></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);" class="">Dave</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class="">David R. Jackson</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class="">Forest Resources Educator</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class="">Penn State Extension-Centre County</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class="">Willowbank Building, Room 322, 420 Holmes Street</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 79);" class="">Bellefonte, PA 16823</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><a href="mailto:drj11@psu.edu" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">drj11@psu.edu</span></a> 814-355-4897(office)</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">Forests and Wildlife Extension: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fextension.psu.edu%2Fforests-and-wildlife&data=04%7C01%7Cdscamardel%40pa.gov%7C033530c665a14de7dad708d93ff3ed2b%7C418e284101284dd59b6c47fc5a9a1bde%7C0%7C0%7C637611139750268287%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=cn4Anyyv5nV%2F2kACinFqbxaPg10s69g0KNiuLzgG42g%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">https://extension.psu.edu/forests-and-wildlife</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-color: currentcolor;" class=""><p class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MAIPC <<a href="mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Nathan Hartshorne<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 2, 2021 7:29 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MAIPC Listserve (<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>) <<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[MAIPC] Ailanthus Herbivory<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><p class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><p class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">Anyone know what's eating this tree of heaven?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div class=""><p class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><span id="cid:image002.png@01D771BE.D94BAFE0"><image002.png></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_3484268182644867018ydpe9d2ee1yqt21407" class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">MAIPC mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:MAIPC@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; 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