<div dir="ltr">And, I have found in cutting & stump treating multiflora patches, we find oak and hickory seedlings underneath that we can save, and stack multi-flora rose all around (which goats won't do and they won't stump-treat)..<div><br></div><div>Also a neighbor used goats to clear EVERYTHING (and now has mowed grass) - they paid more money for the goat-theatre than we would have paid workers to do it the right way. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 8:00 PM Patrick D. Kelly <<a href="mailto:pkelly.licensetokill@yahoo.com">pkelly.licensetokill@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">Goats...seems like a lot of trouble and $ for minimal results. Goats and grazing, like any IPM mechanical control has it's purposes and place depending on the circumstance but they are hardly the over-hyped silver bullet the mainstream focuses and fixates. At worst, goats are sometimes entrepreneur-driven virtue-signaling at the expense of more productive methods. In an ideal world ALL invasive control projects have input from a variety of expertise sources to develop an integrated plan. Unfortunately, this seldom occurs and results of contracted human Specialist/volunteer/financial resources can be marginal at best.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><p style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%">
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On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 07:03:43 PM EDT, Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-1097787356867721437yiv9308052725"><div><div><p><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:sans-serif">It is not likely to work well but it is worth the try since stilt grass is so bad. If they do eat the stilt grass we can come back for 3 years and see if the seed bank has been reduced from 5 to 4 years. Marc</span></p><p> </p><div id="gmail-m_-1097787356867721437yiv9308052725yqt58107"><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p><b>From:</b> Hamersky Business <<a href="mailto:william@skyhammer.com" target="_blank">william@skyhammer.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:10 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> William Hamersky <<a href="mailto:william@skyhammer.com" target="_blank">william@skyhammer.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>; <a href="mailto:INVASIVES@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU" target="_blank">INVASIVES@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU</a>; Vanessa Beauchamp <<a href="mailto:VBeauchamp@towson.edu" target="_blank">VBeauchamp@towson.edu</a>>; Tancos, Matthew - ARS <<a href="mailto:matthew.tancos@usda.gov" target="_blank">matthew.tancos@usda.gov</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> J stiltgrass seeds passing thru goats guts??</p></div></div><p> </p><p>Hi All,</p><div><p>Just got a request from a colleague who is going to have goats take care of their J stiltgrass next week, here in the Charlottesville area.</p></div><div><p> </p></div><div><p> I have 2 questions:</p></div><div><p>1. do goats actually eat stiltgrass?!</p></div><div><p> </p></div><div><p>2. will the seeds pass through the goats' GI tract intact (pre-fertilized!) and ready for next year?</p></div><div><p> </p></div><div><p>Thank you all!</p></div><div><p> </p></div><div><p>Stay safe.</p></div><div><p> </p><div><div><div><div><div><p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:black">William Hamersky<br clear="none">Skyhammer<br clear="none">470 Taylors Gap Rd<br clear="none">Charlottesville, VA 22903<br clear="none"><br clear="none">cel: 415. 516. 2560<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:william@skyhammer.com" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">william@skyhammer.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">“The Ash, having fibres tenacious and strong,<br clear="none">Teaches me firm resistance, to battle with wrong."<br clear="none"> Helen O. Hoyt</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-1097787356867721437yiv9308052725DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2">
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