<html><head></head><body>I believe the deer is a ruminant. Based only on the knowledge of our domestic ruminants, I would think that deer would have the ability to eat and likely digest stiltgrass (or they microbes would). But, we may see issues related to toxins, mineral imbalances and rapid shifts in diet. So how about a slow change over using a Hosta lead concentrate? <div><br></div><div>Wasn’t University of MD trying to train goats to eat stiltgrass (and not other plants). Did they do OK? And, does the rumen destroy seeds? </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Heidi</div><div> <p class="gmail_quote" style="color:#000">On October 1, 2021 at 9:26:40 AM, frazmo (<a href="mailto:frazmo@gmail.com">frazmo@gmail.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_quote"><span><div><div></div><div>
<div dir="auto">My understanding is that deer don't eat grass. They
are browsers, not grazers. So I don't think this could work. What
is definite is that the deer help to spread stiltgrass and
wavyleaf.
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<div dir="auto">Cheers, Steve Young</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 1, 2021, 8:32 AM Marc
Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com">ialm@erols.com</a>>
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That is a great thought. And when a deer has learned to like the
stiltgrass it may remove it elsewhere. Marc</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 01, 2021 8:06 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [MAIPC] Japanese Stilt grass</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Has anyone tried to spray stilt grass with an
“attractant” that may induce deer browsing? I’m not sure what
deer like in the sense of taste but a spray of “sugar” may get them
to at least browse the plant which from my observations they appear
to shy away from? Just a thought.</p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [MAIPC] Japanese Stilt grass</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Today
at Ruth B. Swann Park in Charles County Maryland, I came across
about a quarter acre that had only dead stilt grass from last year.
The dead stilt grass was very thick but there was no live stilt
grass or any other green vegetation including beefsteak plant,
Perilla frutescens. There was a lot of Perilla about 300 feet
away. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Marc
Imlay</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ialm@erols.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Kit Britton' <<a href="mailto:kitbritton@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kitbritton@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Private: Re: Successional Change at Fraser
Preserve with Margaret Chatham - Thu, 03/11/2021 7:30pm-9:00pm</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">If it
kills the seedbank and you remove Perilla, the stilt grass would
not come up at that location the next year (unless it came in from
elsewhere).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Kit Britton <<a href="mailto:kitbritton@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kitbritton@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2021 6:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ialm@erols.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Private: Re: Successional Change at Fraser
Preserve with Margaret Chatham - Thu, 03/11/2021 7:30pm-9:00pm</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't know. I'm trying to think how to
figure that out.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> I think if I look for the first
spring/early summer growth of both plants, there would be the
clue. Is that right?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Killing the seedbank would mean perilla comes
up mostly alone except for stiltgrass seed that blows in late the
prior year.So maybe that would be a smaller "crop". So the result
is the stiltgrass that year is sparse. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One thing is perilla is usually still carrying
and presumably dropping seed well after the stiltgrass seems
finished.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will watch patches of perilla on TRI this
spring/summer. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 8:53 AM Marc Imlay
<<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ialm@erols.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Does
the Perilla kill the seed bank or just the emerging stiltgrass?
Marc</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Kit Britton <<a href="mailto:kitbritton@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kitbritton@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 14, 2021 9:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ialm@erols.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Private: Re: Successional Change at Fraser Preserve
with Margaret Chatham - Thu, 03/11/2021 7:30pm-9:00pm</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From observation in woodlands
environments at Theodore Roosevelt Island and in Donaldson Run
Park it appears that Perilla may have a toxic effect on Japanese
Stiltgrass which will not grow under the Perilla plants or is
very sparse. Also on a larger scale at Gambrill State Park in
Maryland this was obnserved last summer.</p>
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