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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>As you mention, the problem with deer, like cattle, may be the change in microbes at the beginning and the end. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Has anyone looked at the nutritional value of stiltgrass? It is hard to believe it has any redeeming quality. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Interesting thought about the goats though. They are reported to eat any thing and have a lower browse line.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> MAIPC <maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heidi Allen<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 1, 2021 2:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> Marc Imlay <ialm@erols.com>; frazmo <frazmo@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> invasives@listserv.umd.edu; MAIPC Listserve <maipc@lists.maipc.org>; William Buettner Jr <wbuettner@mdot.maryland.gov><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] Japanese Stilt grass<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I believe the deer is a ruminant. Based only on the knowledge of our domestic ruminants, I would think that deer would have the ability to eat and likely digest stiltgrass (or they microbes would). But, we may see issues related to toxins, mineral imbalances and rapid shifts in diet. So how about a slow change over using a Hosta lead concentrate? <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wasn’t University of MD trying to train goats to eat stiltgrass (and not other plants). Did they do OK? And, does the rumen destroy seeds? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Heidi<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=gmailquote><span style='color:black'>On October 1, 2021 at 9:26:40 AM, frazmo (<a href="mailto:frazmo@gmail.com">frazmo@gmail.com</a>) wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My understanding is that deer don't eat grass. They are browsers, not grazers. So I don't think this could work. What is definite is that the deer help to spread stiltgrass and wavyleaf. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers, Steve Young<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Oct 1, 2021, 8:32 AM Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com">ialm@erols.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> That is a great thought. And when a deer has learned to like the stiltgrass it may remove it elsewhere. Marc</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> William Buettner Jr <<a href="mailto:WBuettner@mdot.maryland.gov" target="_blank">WBuettner@mdot.maryland.gov</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 01, 2021 8:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:INVASIVES@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU" target="_blank">INVASIVES@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU</a>; 'MAIPC Listserve' <<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [MAIPC] Japanese Stilt grass<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Has anyone tried to spray stilt grass with an “attractant” that may induce deer browsing? I’m not sure what deer like in the sense of taste but a spray of “sugar” may get them to at least browse the plant which from my observations they appear to shy away from? Just a thought.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=0 width=402 height=106 style='width:4.1875in;height:1.1041in' id="_x0000_i1028" src="file://private/var/mobile/Containers/Shared/AppGroup/DE11080A-85FA-4EE8-BC7C-DA745AED6CD1/Data/Local2/Attachments/2444/image001.png@01D7B69E.E530AF20"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> MAIPC <<a href="mailto:maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank">maipc-bounces@lists.maipc.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of</b> Marc Imlay<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 30, 2021 4:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:INVASIVES@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU" target="_blank">INVASIVES@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU</a>; 'MAIPC Listserve' <<a href="mailto:maipc@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank">maipc@lists.maipc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [MAIPC] Japanese Stilt grass<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Today at Ruth B. Swann Park in Charles County Maryland, I came across about a quarter acre that had only dead stilt grass from last year. The dead stilt grass was very thick but there was no live stilt grass or any other green vegetation including beefsteak plant, Perilla frutescens. There was a lot of Perilla about 300 feet away. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Marc Imlay</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Kit Britton' <<a href="mailto:kitbritton@gmail.com" target="_blank">kitbritton@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Private: Re: Successional Change at Fraser Preserve with Margaret Chatham - Thu, 03/11/2021 7:30pm-9:00pm<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>If it kills the seedbank and you remove Perilla, the stilt grass would not come up at that location the next year (unless it came in from elsewhere).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> Kit Britton <<a href="mailto:kitbritton@gmail.com" target="_blank">kitbritton@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2021 6:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Private: Re: Successional Change at Fraser Preserve with Margaret Chatham - Thu, 03/11/2021 7:30pm-9:00pm<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I don't know. I'm trying to think how to figure that out.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> I think if I look for the first spring/early summer growth of both plants, there would be the clue. Is that right?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Killing the seedbank would mean perilla comes up mostly alone except for stiltgrass seed that blows in late the prior year.So maybe that would be a smaller "crop". So the result is the stiltgrass that year is sparse. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>One thing is perilla is usually still carrying and presumably dropping seed well after the stiltgrass seems finished.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I will watch patches of perilla on TRI this spring/summer. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kit<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 8:53 AM Marc Imlay <<a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Does the Perilla kill the seed bank or just the emerging stiltgrass? Marc</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b> Kit Britton <<a href="mailto:kitbritton@gmail.com" target="_blank">kitbritton@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 14, 2021 9:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ialm@erols.com" target="_blank">ialm@erols.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Private: Re: Successional Change at Fraser Preserve with Margaret Chatham - Thu, 03/11/2021 7:30pm-9:00pm<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>From observation in woodlands environments at Theodore Roosevelt Island and in Donaldson Run Park it appears that Perilla may have a toxic effect on Japanese Stiltgrass which will not grow under the Perilla plants or is very sparse. Also on a larger scale at Gambrill State Park in Maryland this was obnserved last summer.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kit Britton<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>ARMN Master Naturalist<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="m_-5608772916031562129gmail-m_4482336985299559865DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="99%" noshade style='color:#909090' align=center></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='padding:0in 11.25pt 0in 6.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fantivirus&data=04%7C01%7CWBuettner%40mdot.maryland.gov%7Cc64f4a3c4c8a4624bf6a08d9844e9571%7Cb38cd27c57ca4597be2822df43dd47f1%7C0%7C0%7C637686295330713050%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=aGNAaIOA2pUFgLlITBkRrX0i%2FGww1GBU6WM%2FTlzP5B0%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=90 height=33 style='width:.9375in;height:.3437in' id="_x0000_i1027" src="https://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png" alt="Avast logo"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#3D4D5A'>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br><a href="https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fantivirus&data=04%7C01%7CWBuettner%40mdot.maryland.gov%7Cc64f4a3c4c8a4624bf6a08d9844e9571%7Cb38cd27c57ca4597be2822df43dd47f1%7C0%7C0%7C637686295330723008%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=XBY3QzRG0GGgkf6e8iI0ucFirDmI2TDuknMOV1QOd1Y%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">www.avast.com</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:white'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>MAIPC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:MAIPC@lists.maipc.org" target="_blank">MAIPC@lists.maipc.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org" target="_blank">http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ <br>MAIPC mailing list <br><a href="mailto:MAIPC@lists.maipc.org">MAIPC@lists.maipc.org</a> <br><a href="http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org">http://lists.maipc.org/listinfo.cgi/maipc-maipc.org</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>