<div dir="ltr">In NC, we called it rye grain, which was frequently mentioned as an alternative to annual rye. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 9:01 AM Matthew Sarver <<a href="mailto:matt@sarverecological.com">matt@sarverecological.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Colleen,</div><div><br></div><div>At high seeding rates, annual ryegrass can be detrimental to the success of a planting through competition. If you're worried about that, grain rye (Secale cereale) might be a better cover crop. Ernst has a mix that uses grain rye rather than annual ryegrass: <a href="https://www.ernstseed.com/product/native-steep-slope-mix-wgrain-rye/" target="_blank">https://www.ernstseed.com/product/native-steep-slope-mix-wgrain-rye/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Of course, it very much depends on soils, sun exposure vs. shade, aspect, etc. I wouldn't recommend the mix above for a shady location.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Matt<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Matthew J. Sarver, BA, CERP</div><div>Certified Senior Ecologist, Ecological Society of America </div><div dir="ltr">Principal, Sarver Ecological, LLC<div>6 Walnut Ridge Rd</div><div>Wilmington, DE 19807</div><div><a href="mailto:matt@sarverecological.com" target="_blank">matt@sarverecological.com</a></div><div>(724) 689-5845</div><div><a href="http://www.sarverecological.com" target="_blank">www.sarverecological.com</a></div><div><br></div><div><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1FZZIejLCeKA9nM_xyPRJkKhAvtaUwGyX&revid=0B6QoKBwE9N6vT21PajZjM2YrVElGaUM2NGQ3b1NnTTJwRUEwPQ" width="200" height="52"><br></div><div><br></div><div><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1gwvlkQx3Q93UNUSq2s9UOZbvf1VdR0iW&revid=0B6QoKBwE9N6veTVubStpdzZJOHlhcHVHQzE2UlM3YzNjejhnPQ" width="200" height="126"><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 6:36 PM Judy Fulton <<a href="mailto:jfulton5@gmail.com" target="_blank">jfulton5@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi Colleen,<br>
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I don't have personal experience with growing Lolium multiflorum
(aka Lolium perenne ssp. multiflorum and Festuca perennis), but
I do get concerned when people talk about using it because it
has been mentioned as invasive or naturalizing by various
sources. Here's a sampling of links:<br>
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<li>CABI:
<a href="https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/31165#tosummaryOfInvasiveness" target="_blank">https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/31165#tosummaryOfInvasiveness</a></li>
<li>NC State Extension:
<a href="https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/lolium-multiflorum/" target="_blank">https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/lolium-multiflorum/</a></li>
<li>Cal-IPC:
<a href="https://www.cal-ipc.org/plants/profile/festuca-perennis-profile/" target="_blank">https://www.cal-ipc.org/plants/profile/festuca-perennis-profile/</a></li>
<li>WV:
<a href="http://www.midatlanticpanel.org//wp-content/uploads/2016/04/WV_ISSP_2014.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.midatlanticpanel.org//wp-content/uploads/2016/04/WV_ISSP_2014.pdf</a>
(pg 45)</li>
<li>Weakley's Flora of Southeastern (no judgment about
invasiveness, but shown as exotic and growing uncultivated
throughout the Mid-Atlantic):
<a href="https://ncbg.unc.edu/research/unc-herbarium/flora-request/" target="_blank">https://ncbg.unc.edu/research/unc-herbarium/flora-request/</a></li>
<li>USDA Agricultural Research Service (Naturalized section under
Distribution tab):
<a href="https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/taxon/taxonomydetail?id=22493" target="_blank">https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/taxon/taxonomydetail?id=22493</a><br>
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<p>Because of these and other sources, I've included <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Lolium multiflorum in the
Mid-Atlantic Invaders Tool
(<a href="https://www.invasive.org/midatlantic/" target="_blank">https://www.invasive.org/midatlantic/</a>). Frankly, if I were
doing the planting, I'd choose to go all native.<br>
<br>
Judy</font><br>
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<div>On 10/20/2021 12:43 PM, Kenny, Colleen
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Hi all,</div>
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I'm looking at doing a warm/cool season grass mix from Ernst in
an area that has a lot of exposed soil (we're very worried about
erosion). The mixes have annual ryegrass (<i>Lolium multiflorum</i>)
which is not native, but apparently germinates much faster and
more aggressively than the native ryegrasses. <br>
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Does anyone have experience with these? Will the ryegrass peter
out in a few years? Any need to worry about it taking over too
aggressively?</div>
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I'm facing the tradeoff between need to stop erosion and desire
to go all-native. If the annual rye is not detrimental it would
be worth the faster germination.</div>
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I appreciate your thoughts,</div>
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