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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is such an important conversation and I hope our community can come to consensus on what to maintain and how to make changes where they are needed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Is it possible for someone to share the Virginia Master Naturalists webinar with any suggested attribution so that it can be used by others?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Don<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Don Callihan<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cockeysville, MD 21030<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">410-961-8132 (cellular)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Rowena Zimmermann <rowena@blueridgeprism.org> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 22, 2022 11:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> maipc@lists.maipc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MAIPC] Invasive plant nomenclature<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Patricia and Norris,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This has been an issue we are very aware of at Blue Ridge PRISM and last year we made the decision to use the term "Asiatic Bittersweet" rather than "Oriental Bittersweet." However, at this time we continue to use terms like Japanese stiltgrass,
Norway maple, and English ivy as they seem to be more indicative of the origin of the species rather than any derogatory intent. As an Asian woman, I've encountered language out there that makes me uncomfortable (e.g. articles that refer to some invasive
plants as "Asian intruders" or "alien invaders") because the terms, although not intended in this aspect, have been used against Asian (and other immigrant) people in the past and continue to be used that way. So, it is more than just plant nomenclature but
also how we talk about invasive plants in general that make up the bigger picture on how we as a whole can be more mindful and respectful of how we use our words in this field. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm grateful to be part of the conversation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All the best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rowena Zimmermann<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Rowena Zimmermann</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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a partnership for regional invasive species management in Virginia</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#888888">.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 6:09 PM <<a href="mailto:maipc-request@lists.maipc.org">maipc-request@lists.maipc.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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1. Re: Nomenclature (Muth, Norris (MUTH))<br>
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 23:07:53 +0000<br>
From: "Muth, Norris (MUTH)" <<a href="mailto:MUTH@juniata.edu" target="_blank">MUTH@juniata.edu</a>><br>
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Patricia,<br>
I?m a big fan of all the good work you?re doing. Thanks for brining up this important and interesting subject.<br>
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Lots of the words that figure into both common and scientific names are derogatory and/or offensive. In most of the cases below I have mixed feelings about searching for alternate common names (with the exception of bittersweet which I have seen some preferring
the term Asiatic bittersweet). I know that in other contexts (e.g. COVID and flu, etc.) some people have tried (and sometimes succeeded) to turn the names of regions into something with negative connotations. In the recent case of the coronavirus outbreak
some people chose specifically to use terminology that wasn?t common parlance to stoke these negative associations. Thankfully, I don?t see the parallel between that abhorrent behavior and the botanical examples below.<br>
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To me, the names Japanese stiltgrass and the like merely refer to locations that the species originate from (likely somewhat inaccurately ? but being accurate with biological names is a different problem). We can all agree that there?s nothing offensive about
being from Japan, China, Norway, or anywhere. What would definitely be troubling is if people were pushing messages that these are anything other than purely descriptive when using these terms. I admit that could certainly be possible, but I haven?t yet seen
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What I certainly want to avoid is using offensive terminology to describe plants (and anything else), and I think people are doing great work in places to address that (e.g. spongy moth). I also want to avoid (and I know very well that you aren?t suggesting
this yourself ? but it could arise from renaming efforts) the idea that being from any of these countries is a bad thing.<br>
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I also want to avoid unnecessary confusion around invasive species listing and management, which could be an unfortunate byproduct of renaming species that are still for sale. If someone can buy Norway maple, I want to make sure I?m able to tell them what to
avoid in the same easy-to-understand terms.<br>
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If there is more light to be shed on this discussion I would be grateful to hear them. Thanks again for bringing up this interesting and important issue.<br>
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Norris<br>
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Norris Z. Muth, Ph.D. (he/him)<br>
Juniata College<br>
Zoom meeting<<a href="https://juniata.zoom.us/my/muthlab" target="_blank">https://juniata.zoom.us/my/muthlab</a>><br>
<a href="http://muthlab.org" target="_blank">muthlab.org</a><<a href="http://muthlab.org/" target="_blank">http://muthlab.org/</a>><br>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 10:15:58 AM<br>
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Hi,<br>
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I?m continuing a conversation about the names of invasive species that feel insensitive to use. Recently, Virginia Master Naturalists held a webinar on this topic (which I haven?t watched yet).<br>
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What's in a Name? Thoughtful Nomenclature Makes a Difference<br>
Presenter: Angela Gupta, University of Minnesota Extension<br>
Recorded: 10 November 2022<br>
Watch the video<<a href="https://video.vt.edu/media/VMN+CE+WebinarA+What%27s+In+a+NameF+Thoughtful+Nomenclature+Makes+a+Difference/1_r4imzpls" target="_blank">https://video.vt.edu/media/VMN+CE+WebinarA+What%27s+In+a+NameF+Thoughtful+Nomenclature+Makes+a+Difference/1_r4imzpls</a>>
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I am planning to work with our botanist to find names for invasives that reference their location of origin, such as:<br>
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Oriental bittersweet<br>
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Japanese stiltgrass<br>
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Japanese/Chinese wisterias<br>
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Chinese Holly<br>
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Japanese Holly<br>
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And others<br>
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My question to you is if you or people you know have started these conversations and if so, what names are you using/changing?<br>
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Thank you,<br>
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Patricia Pearl Greenberg<br>
Ecologist II<br>
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Invasive Management Area (IMA) Program Manager<br>
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Natural Resource Branch<br>
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Fairfax County Park Authority<br>
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Office: 703-324-8673<br>
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<a href="mailto:patricia.greenberg@fairfaxcounty.gov" target="_blank">patricia.greenberg@fairfaxcounty.gov</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:patricia.greenberg@fairfaxcounty.gov" target="_blank">patricia.greenberg@fairfaxcounty.gov</a>><br>
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ISA Tree Risk Assessment Qualified<o:p></o:p></p>
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