[MAIPC] Poison ivy management

Rutkosky, Flavia flavia_rutkosky at fws.gov
Tue Sep 17 06:37:12 PDT 2013


Chagrined. . .indeed I did post the wrong link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/metro/urban-jungle/pages/100803.html


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Randall, John L <jrandall at email.unc.edu>wrote:

>  Ha, ha, ha, ha… Is this a dupe or did you post the wrong link? ****
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> maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org] *On Behalf Of *Rutkosky, Flavia
> *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 5:08 PM
> *To:* Deborah Landau
> *Cc:* Kathi Mestayer; <maipc at lists.maipc.org>; <dwbealer at yahoo.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [MAIPC] Poison ivy management****
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> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Deborah Landau <dlandau at tnc.org> wrote:**
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> I’m not a big fan of using rubbing alcohol to clean up from poison ivy
> exposure, because it removes all naturally-occurring oils from your skin;
> thus, if you are re-exposed that same day (say you touch an unwashed tool,
> or you still have some on your clothes), your skin will have no protection
> at all.  I like John Ambler’s Dawn washing method, my only addition to that
> is make sure you don’t use hot water (you want to avoid opening the pores
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> maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathi Mestayer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:35 PM
> *To:* Carol
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> *Subject:* Re: [MAIPC] Poison ivy management****
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> I was doing english ivy removal both times. The second time, I got it from
> leaning against a vine that was on a tree infested with english ivy, that I
> was doing an intervention on. Got it through a cotton tshirt; thought I
> might've had shingles!
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> From Kathi Mestayer's Cellphone****
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> On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:16 PM, "Carol" <Carol2339 at verizon.net> wrote:****
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> We've found that you can be immune in one part of the country and then get
> poison ivy in another region, so don't get cocky.  We learned this through
> Americorps teams who can to work with us.****
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> *From:* Kathi Mestayer <kwren at widomaker.com> ****
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> *To:* David Merkey <dhmerkey at gmail.com> ****
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 03, 2013 6:36 PM****
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> *Subject:* Re: [MAIPC] Poison ivy management****
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> p.s. you can get poison ivy in the dead of winter.  I've done it two
> Januaries in a row.  I'm a slow learner. ****
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> On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:22 PM, David Merkey wrote:****
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> Mr. Bealer,  ****
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> (1) Yes, the oils can remain active even if the plants are old and dead.
> Under NO circumstances should the plants (dried or alive) be burned, the
> oils can become airborne and breathed in with the smoke, causing the rash
> in the lungs.****
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> (2) It depends on where they were discarded and whether or not they and
> the soil were moist. It is possible that they might re-root. ****
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> (3) Depending on the situation you are in, the amount of PI you have on
> site, and the time line you are working with, you might also consider
> fencing in the area and letting goats eat the PI. They are immune to the
> toxin. You could also get a dumpster service and place the PI directly in
> there so that workers would only have to handle it once. Also, again
> depending on how much you have; sleeve-length rubber gloves might be
> necessary to protect workers. Lastly, rubbing alcohol dissolves the oil so
> have plenty of that on hand. Workers will have 15 minutes from the time of
> contact to clean up with rubbing alcohol to help avoid the rash; all tools
> should be wiped down at the end of the day. Again, depending of the size of
> the vines you're working with; if you just have a few big ones, cutting
> them with hand tools and painting the stump with a brush kill will kill the
> root so you don't have to dig it up.****
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> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:05 PM, <meginnv at yahoo.com> wrote:****
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> Any thoughts for Mr. Bealer?
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>  *From:* Dennis Bealer <dwbealer at yahoo.com>
> *Date:* September 3, 2013, 3:35:10 PM EDT
> *To:* "info at maipc.org" <info at maipc.org>
> *Subject:* *Poison ivy management*
> *Reply-To:* Dennis Bealer <dwbealer at yahoo.com>****
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>   After 2 hours of web research, it seems that the best way to dispose of
> poison ivy is to place it in plastic garbage bags and send to a landfill.
> Articles discourage burning or composting.  ****
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> If we uproot the plants and discard on the surface to dry out, would we
> endanger other workers who might contact the dead plants in subsequent
> weeks on the jobsite (since some web articles state that urushiol persists
> even in dead plants)?****
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> If we uproot the plants and discard on the surface, do you suspect that
> the discarded plants would re-root, especially considering the approaching
> autumn leaf fall?****
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> Do you agree the best disposal is plastic bags in the landfill?****
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