[MAIPC] Fwd: [NativePlantseast] Smartweed management?

Dewey historictimekeepers at gmail.com
Tue Jul 14 14:35:23 PDT 2015


Jake,

I LOVE flaming invasives (especially with the ground as wet as it is)..  
It is very cathartic.  Feels like watching the wicked witch melt.  Of 
course the advantage is that perennials and most grasses recover fairly 
quickly and no herbicides used.

Rather than buy the pre assembled kit, I bought the the torch and an 
Alice Pack frame separately.  A 20 lb cylinder feels good (attach to 
frame with gripper load straps) so no need to buy the 10 lb cylinder.  
Saved about $90.

Freaks out one of my neighbors, but he annoys me anyway.  FWIW, I do 
wear Nomex.

Regards,
  
Dewey Clark,
http://www.historictimekeepers.com
Omega Recognized Service Provider
WOSTEP Certified After Sales Service of Current Watches
WOSTEP Certified Micromechanics
Restoration of Vintage Timepieces
Precision Timing Specialist
Micromachining

On 7/13/2015 9:32 PM, Hughes, Jake wrote:
> Lori,
> We have a pretty bad problem with Oriental lady's thumb (Polygonum 
> cespitosum, Persicaria longiseta) here at Shenandoah National Park.  
> Like the native PA smartweed, it has pink flowers/fruit, but they're 
> smaller, and the leaf sheath around the stem (ocrea) is fringed with 
> long hairs. It's our second most widespread and abundant nonnative 
> weed, and is often found in near monocultures.  Oriental lady's thumb 
> seems to really thrive and persist in mesic, higher elevation sites in 
> the park.  At lower elevations it seems a bit more ephemeral.
> Assuming your smartweed is confirmed as this or another of the small 
> handful of nonnative species, you're correct--you won't find 
> much guidance on dealing with it. We've found it's easy to kill, but 
> not very easy to kill without collateral damage.  A glyphosate product 
> such as Rodeo (54% glyphosate) can be used at low concentrations (0.5% 
> has been pretty consistently effective, 0.25% less so) on heavy 
> infestations.  Weed whacking it close to the ground before seed 
> set can knock it back.  In upland areas, preemergent products (e.g. 
> pendimethalin, prodiamine) can be useful, and are probably your best 
> option for avoiding damage to native perennials.  But these may not be 
> an option if you're near a stream.  Contact herbicides such as 
> pelargonic acid (e.g. Scythe at 5 to 10% concentration) are also 
> pretty effective, if applied early and before rigid stems develop.  
> Flaming with a propane torch should work too, if you're into that.
> Since mowing probably leaves enough above-ground tissue for the plants 
> to rebound, I doubt it would effectively control Oriental lady's 
> thumb.  And certainly if it's being mowed after seed set, the seeds 
> are being thrown far and wide.
> Hope this is somewhat helpful, should you need to deal with this plant.
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Lori Bowes <lrbowes2 at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:lrbowes2 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi.  I get confused about smartweed/knotweed but I can say that
>     every time I have asked a plant-knowledgeable person about our
>     smartweed, they felt it was the invasive type.
>
>     I think in my haste to get this posted before a Grounds meeting I
>     relied on a google entry that told me that PA smartweed was
>     invasive so I thought that was the one we have.
>
>     I guess I need to affirm that my ocrea is not bristled.
>
>     Assuming ours is the invasive species, if you have guidance on
>     whether mowing is worsening the problem, please let me know.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Lori
>
>
>
>     On Monday, July 13, 2015 4:40 PM, Art Gover <aeg2 at psu.edu
>     <mailto:aeg2 at psu.edu>> wrote:
>
>
>     I like PA smartweed.  It’s native and charming and fills space. 
>     Sure about the ID?
>
>     Be well.
>
>     Art
>
>     Penn State Wildland Weed Management
>     116 ASI Building
>     University Park, PA  16802
>
>     (814) 863-9904
>     (814) 863-7043 FAX
>     http://plantscience.psu.edu/wildland
>
>     > On Jul 13, 2015, at 16:37, frazmo <frazmo at gmail.com
>     <mailto:frazmo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Any thoughts out there in MAIPC land? If possible, copy the
>     asker, lrbowes2 at yahoo.com <mailto:lrbowes2 at yahoo.com>, directly
>     also as I'm not sure she's on our list. Cheers, Steve Young
>     >
>     > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>     > From: "lrbowes2 at yahoo.com <mailto:lrbowes2 at yahoo.com>
>     [NativePlantseast]" <NativePlantseast at yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:NativePlantseast at yahoogroups.com>>
>     > Date: Jul 13, 2015 12:34 PM
>     > Subject: [NativePlantseast] Smartweed management?
>     > To: <NativePlantseast at yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:NativePlantseast at yahoogroups.com>>
>     > Cc:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > My community has an abundance of Polygonum pensylvanicum on a
>     turf hillside that abuts a stream (on the other side of which is a
>     wooded area) and a terraced native plant area (with asters,
>     goldenrods, grasses, viburnums, violets, etc).  The Polygonum is
>     thriving amongst the turf and is constantly invading the native
>     plant terrace.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > We have some flexibility in how we manage the turf hillside in
>     terms of mowing.  Can anyone offer some thoughts or guidance?
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > I haven't found much on the web in the way of guidance for this
>     topic.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     >
>     > Lori
>     >
>     > Arlington, VA
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