[MAIPC] MAIPC Digest, Vol 68, Issue 11 Neonicotinoids change plant chemistry of seed

Steve Young sly27 at cornell.edu
Mon Jun 19 15:42:31 PDT 2017 

Can you send a link to the scientific studies you are referring to?

Thanks,
Steve

> On Jun 19, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Kathryn Peterson-Lambert <triplam747 at aol.com> wrote:
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> Hello Friends, Scientific studies show that Neonicotinoids implanted into the DNA seed package are contributing to bee population decline. Therefore, if the plant is a ‘debilitator’ to other plants because of its contribution to the decline of pollinators - can it be represented as an invasive?  Can the plant with Neonicotinoids be represented as a special category invasive? Neonnicotinoid changes the basic chemistry of the plant - yes it does - change the plant chemistry because  the chemical is implanted into the seed - this changes the DNA of the plant because it is put into the seed. The DNA package is then different - it has different coding because it has this seed that carries the chemical neonnicotinoids/related nicotine like products. 
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>>  1. Re: Fwd: harmful milkweed from Home Depot (Margaret Chatham)
>>  2. Food for thought, and some interesting stats...
>>     (Kerrie L. Kyde -DNR-)
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>> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 21:13:34 -0400
>> From: Margaret Chatham <margaret.chatham at verizon.net>
>> To: Kathryn Peterson-Lambert <triplam747 at aol.com>,
>>    <maipc at lists.maipc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Fwd: harmful milkweed from Home Depot
>> Message-ID: <D56C9D7E.26957%margaret.chatham at verizon.net>
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>> Dear Kathy,
>> 
>> The plant DNA is unchanged. Once the neo-nics are worked out of the plant?s
>> system (when? Next year?) they will be normal, native milkweed. It does not
>> make the plant any more invasive than it would normally be (common milkweed
>> can certainly be very aggressive ? I didn?t catch if they said which species
>> of milkweed was being sold.)
>> 
>> Yes, this practice is very bad & self-defeating as far as monarchs &
>> pollinators are concerned, but it doesn?t change the plant itself.
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
>>> On 6/18/17 12:13 PM, "Kathryn Peterson-Lambert" <triplam747 at aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Milkweed - neonic- Nicotine based plants. I am concerned that this plant
>>> because although a native - it becomes invasive when it is treated in this
>>> manner? This plant is no longer a native because it is carrying a different
>>> DNA package - am I correct in assessing it that way? We define native plants
>>> by their DNA package and their chemical composition don?t we? Or at least I do
>>> when I am studying the historical and medicinal uses of plants.  The chemical
>>> changes the composition of the plant and it becomes a different plant because
>>> of its new chemical composition? Any thoughts on this one? Thank you, Kathryn
>>> Peterson Lambert
>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>> From: "MJ Webb" <m.j.webb at verizon.net>
>>>> Subject: harmful milkweed from Home Depot
>>>> Date: May 7, 2017 at 7:42:51 AM EDT
>>>> To: <m.j.webb at verizon.net>
>>>> 
>>>> Beware the killer milkweed sold in stores.  Why must we always mess with
>>>> mother nature?  it is all about the money, like the man said.  Pollinators
>>>> goodbye. 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Randie Trestrail <mailto:randiesue at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 7:13 AM
>>>> To: Noel and Nancy Talcott <mailto:nancynoeltalcott at verizon.net>  ; Philip E.
>>>> Prisco <mailto:priscop at verizon.net>  ; mailto:gwyn at jlab.org ; Carol Bartram
>>>> <mailto:bartram2 at verizon.net>  ; Dana Horton <mailto:hortondands at gmail.com>
>>>> ; mandy philbeck <mailto:mandy.canoodles at gmail.com>  ; MJ Webb
>>>> <mailto:m.j.webb at verizon.net>  ; stu at gardenatriums.com
>>>> Subject: Fwd: harmful milkweed from Home Depot
>>>> 
>>>> Alert to plant and Bee people, please see below.
>>>> 
>>>> Randie
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Susan Yager <soozigus at cox.net>
>>>> Date: Fri, May 5, 2017 at 6:02 PM
>>>> Subject: harmful milkweed from Home Depot
>>>> To: Sooz Yager <soozigus at cox.net>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The email below was distributed to the members of the Virginia Native Plant
>>>> Society local John Clayton Chapter.  I would imagine the same situation may
>>>> occur at any Home Depot across the country.
>>>> 
>>>> There?s more to the neonic problem than the monarch caterpillars it may kill.
>>>> Bees that take nectar from plants treated with neonics come to prefer the
>>>> tainted flowers and seek out other neonic-treated flowers.  It?s sort of like
>>>> an addiction in that they keep going back for the poison, and then of course
>>>> they take the nectar and pollen to the hive, affecting the rest of the hive?s
>>>> population.  These neonics are really, really bad stuff.  Please spread the
>>>> word on Home Depot (and surely other places) to other pollinator gardeners.
>>>> 
>>>> Susie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Louise Menges [mailto:ltmeng at verizon.net]
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 1:31 PM
>>>> To: Louise Menges
>>>> Subject: Fwd: harmful milkweed plants being sold
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear  JCC members,
>>>> Lucile Kossodo received this email written by a concerned gardener in
>>>> Louisiana and asked me to pass it on--
>>>> Louise
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I purchased  a Milkweed plant from Home Depot near my home and it wasn't
>>>>>> until I got home  that I noticed the little information stick hidden behind
>>>>>> the identification  information that the plant had been treated with
>>>>>> systemic Neonicotinoids.  The container boasted how  desirable the plant is
>>>>>> for birds and butterflies.  Yesterday I went to  a different Home Depot and
>>>>>> they had just put out an entire rolling cart of  these plants, maybe about
>>>>>> 100, all poisoned.  I contacted the store  manager and told him that it is
>>>>>> the same as giving poison candy to kids on  Halloween. This is THE host
>>>>>> plant for the Monarch.  My club, Shady Oaks  and our junior club, Little
>>>>>> Shadows have worked so hard to establish a  Monarch Waystation and to
>>>>>> educate people on the decline of the  Monarch.  I hate to think of the
>>>>>> millions of poison Milkweed being  distributed nationwide by Home Depot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The container says distributed  by Home Depot, 2455 Paces Ferry Rd N. W.,
>>>>>> Atlanta , Georgia.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I  contacted the LSU Ag Agent for New Orleans, Dr Joe Willis.  He said the
>>>>>> Neonicotinoids will dilute as the plants grow but that only a very small
>>>>>> amount will kill the larva of the Monarch.  He is contacting the Master
>>>>>> Gardeners of the area.  I contacted the newsletters of the Jefferson
>>>>>> Parish Council of Garden Clubs and the Federated Council of New Orleans
>>>>>> Garden Clubs to ask that they send a notice to our local members.  I
>>>>>> contacted a local GOA club and the president said she would inform her
>>>>>> members. I contacted our LGCF President and our Environmental School
>>>>>> Chairman with the information.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We need a notice to Home Depot from a  national source.  I contacted the
>>>>>> Monarch Watch organization ,www.MonarchWatch.org/ws
>>>>>> <http://www.monarchwatch.org/ws>  <http://www.MonarchWatch.org/ws>  at the
>>>>>> University of Kansas (1200 Sunnyside Avenue, Lawrence, KS 66045) .  The
>>>>>> Little Shadows Junior Garden Club registered our Monarch Waystation with
>>>>>> them.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <http://www.monarchwatch.org/ws> Monarch Watch :  Monarch Waystation
>>>>>> Program
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> www.monarchwatch.org <http://www.monarchwatch.org/>
>>>>>> <http://www.monarchwatch.org <http://www.monarchwatch.org/>
>>>>>> <http://www.monarchwatch.org >  >
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Monarch Watch is a  cooperative network of students, teachers, volunteers
>>>>>> and researchers  dedicated to the study of the Monarch butterfly, Danaus
>>>>>> plexippus and its  ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sandy we need a response from NGC to this issue. It needs to be  sent soon
>>>>>> as these plants are being sold now to well meaning people who are  wanting
>>>>>> to help the Monarch not kill them.  I know you are very busy  but I hate to
>>>>>> think of the billions of plants being sold nationwide and how  that will
>>>>>> cancel the efforts of so many to stop the demise of the Monarch.  Could you
>>>>>> please help?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mary Ellen Miller
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shady Oaks Garden  Club , LGCF District II
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Moderator Little Shadows Junior Garden  Club
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Immediate Past President Federated Council of New Orleans Garden  Clubs
>>>>>> Inc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> memiller306 at yahoo.com <mailto:memiller306 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (504)723-7796 <tel:(504)%20723-7796>  <tel:%28504%29%20723-7796>
>>>>>> 
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