[MAIPC] Scilla siberica without photos

[John Ambler]

Thanks to those who replied about the possible Scilla species.  I put the four replies into one email, deleting the photos.

 

Fortunately Wikipedia has detailed descriptions of the characteristics of several species of Scilla and the closely related Chionodoxa genera.  >From this I’ll be able to identify the species at Tucquan Glen when I examine it closely.  I’ll then post what I find out.  Fortunately this beautiful little plant does not seem to spread very fast.

 

John Ambler

Lancaster, PA

 

From: Patrick D. Kelly [mailto:pkelly.licensetokill at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Scilla siberica

 

It looks closer to Chionodoxa luciliae
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chionodoxa_luciliae

 

...to me.

 

Patrick Kelly in Maryland

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On Friday, March 24, 2017 9:03 AM, "Grund, Steve" <SGrund at paconserve.org> wrote:

 

Possibly Scilla siberica, but I think it is S. bifolia. Definitely not Camassia. 

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From: Rohrbaugh, Andrew [mailto:anrohrbaug at pa.gov] 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: [MAIPC] Scilla siberica

 

I don’t have any experience with Siberian squill, but from an unscientific google search it definitely looks like that’s what it is. 

 

The only native species I could think of that looks similar would be Camassia scilloides, but it has more of a raceme of flowers and narrower, lighter petals. Lancaster would also be well outside of its current range.

 

Andrew Rohrbaugh | Botanist

Pennsylvania Department of Conservation & Natural Resources
Bureau of Forestry | Ecological Services Section

PO Box 8552, 400 Market St, Harrisburg, PA 17105-8552
Phone: 717.705.2823 | Fax: 717.772.0271
anrohrbaug at pa.gov

www.dcnr.state.pa.us <http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/> 

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From: Ellis, Michael [mailto:Michael.Ellis at pgparks.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Scilla siberica

 

Hi John and All,

 

iNaturalist is also a good place to find reports of many species, See http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/204439-Othocallis-siberica, scroll down for map. Scilla siberica (syn. Othocallis siberica) appears to grow very well in the mid-atlantic.

 

Are there any look-a-likes to Scilla siberica/Othocallis siberica? I am trying to ID a population as well <http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/5375375> , could this be it? 

 

Hope to hear more,

 

Michael Ellis

Non-Native Invasive Plant Management Coordinator

Park Ranger Office, Natural and Historical Resources Division

Department of Parks and Recreation, Prince George’s County

The Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission

 

Mobile: (240) 429-5042

 

 

From: MAIPC [mailto:maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org] On Behalf Of John Ambler
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:57 PM
To: jilswearingen at gmail.com
Cc: maipc at lists.maipc.org
Subject: [MAIPC] Scilla siberica

 

Hi Jil and maipc list members,

 

I believe there is a population of squill, Scilla siberica, at Tucquan Glen in southern Lancaster Co., PA.  I did a Google search on squill EDDMAPS and immediately got the distribution map for it.

 

It is severely invasive in Minnesota:  https://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/flower/siberian-squill  .  At Tucquan Glen I have seen it for years, but I will start quantifying the population over time.

 

This is on a rich, high, forested floodplain.  Snowdrops started being invasive on the same floodplain, but it is easy to pull out clumps of it.

 

Photos below are from March 22, 2017.  If anyone knows that this is not Scilla siberica, please let me know.

 

John Ambler

Lancaster, PA

 

 

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