[MAIPC] native dodder

Tue Jul 31 05:50:08 PDT 2018

Yes, sometimes short-term "invasive" but not destructive, in contrast with non-native invasive.  This is what separates a non-native invasive species from a native one.

Only non-native species disrupt and destroy the environment they are in.

Native species have co-evolved over millions of years to exist in a healthy, complex, diverse balance.

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From: Marc Imlay <ialm at erols.com>
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Subject: RE: [MAIPC] native dodder

We have found that native invasives become non-invasive if native competitors are restored. For example Switch grass.

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Subject: Re: [MAIPC] native dodder

One point I would like to make; just because it is a native does not mean it is or can be invasive.

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Subject: Re: [MAIPC] native dodder

Because all native plants have co-evolved with other native vegetation and fauna to form sustainable, diverse natural communities, with all components important.  For the same reason that Poison Ivy, Pokeweed, etc., are all valuable.

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Just curious, but what about dodder makes it a "valuable native"? We have it in our fields and I leave it alone, but wonder if it is damaging the plants on which it is growing.

Susan Roth, Blue Ridge PRISM

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Does anyone know much about the distribution of Japanese dodder?  When in NJ a few years back, with a field biologist from the NYNJ Trail Conference, she indicated the Cuscuta we were seeing in a wetland area was invasive. I don't see this very often but I did just spot it in Harriman State Park in NY this past week. Wishing I had taken a closer look.

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Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Id Please?

Agreed, they're very, very difficult to identify to species (you need fruits and flowers and a very fine ruler!)

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Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Id Please?

It?s Cuscuta - a valuable native species.  Probably C. campestre.

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> Any idea what this might be? It is very localized and along a drainage

ditch.

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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 10:14:30 -0600

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Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Id Please?

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I don't think Japanese dodder has been reported further north than South Carolina on the east coast so far (see https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabi.org%2Fisc%2Fdatasheet%2F17116&data=02%7C01%7Crod.simmons%40alexandriava.gov%7Cbf5dc47a84b140513d9708d5f6669159%7Cfeaa9b3143754aeeadccc76ad32a890b%7C0%7C0%7C636685842753199796&sdata=J57fGhVLJXP%2Bfv3BUM79kpakWi7yNOmSkPSGxb7s3Hs%3D&reserved=0).  If you look at photos of it in CA, it covers entire shrubs and trees unlike the native dodders.  Otherwise it is hard to tell it apart from the native dodders as it sometimes doesn't flower and can only be distinguished using DNA analysis.

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On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 10:03 AM Marian Orlousky < morlousky at appalachiantrail.org<mailto:morlousky at appalachiantrail.org>> wrote:

> Does anyone know much about the distribution of Japanese dodder?  When

> in NJ a few years back, with a field biologist from the NYNJ Trail

Conference,

> she indicated the Cuscuta we were seeing in a wetland area was

> invasive. I don't see this very often but I did just spot it in

> Harriman State Park in NY this past week. Wishing I had taken a closer look.

>

>

> Marian Orlousky

> Northern Resource Management Coordinator Appalachian Trail Conservancy

> 4 East First Street

> Boiling Springs, PA 17007

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> *Subject:* Re: [MAIPC] Id Please?

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> Agreed, they're very, very difficult to identify to species (you need

> fruits and flowers and a very fine ruler!)

>

> Andrew Rohrbaugh | Botanist

> Pennsylvania Department of Conservation & Natural Resources Bureau of

> Forestry | Ecological Services Section PO Box 8552, 400 Market St,

> Harrisburg, PA 17105-8552

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> It?s Cuscuta - a valuable native species.  Probably C. campestre.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

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> > On Jul 27, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Jonathan Duffy <jrd at kinlochfarm.com<mailto:jrd at kinlochfarm.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Any idea what this might be? It is very localized and along a

> > drainage

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> > Thanks, Jonathan Duffy

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