[MAIPC] "alternative solution"

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Sat Sep 15 08:29:24 PDT 2018


I just use a weed flamer.  This weather has been prefect for that. Much 
better than mowing or spot spraying since it destroys any seed pods as well.

I would never add salt to my soil.  Road salt from winter is bad 
enough.  There are data that show a number of streams in western MD 
become highly salinic (?) once the water levels drop in summer causing 
the road salt to increase in concentration.

Regards,
  
Dewey Clark,
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Regards,

Dewey Clark
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On 9/15/2018 9:29 AM, JANICE STEINER wrote:
>
> I get the vinegar and soap, but what function does the salt serve?
>
>
>> On September 15, 2018 at 7:04 AM Mark Frey <runcator at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Milo
>>
>> I'm not sure I'd agree that your method is necessarily less toxic. 
>> Applying salt to the forest could create problems (salting the earth 
>> and all of that). You have developed a chemical solution that kills 
>> organisms; just because you bought those chemicals at the grocery 
>> store instead of the hardware store doesn't mean they are necessarily 
>> safe.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 7:07 PM Milo Pyne < Milo_Pyne at natureserve.org 
>> <mailto:Milo_Pyne at natureserve.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     I have used a solution of white vinegar (1 gal.), dish soap (1
>>     cup), and table salt (1 TBSP); warm the vinegar to dissolve the
>>     salt; add soap; spray on plants…
>>
>>     This is certainly less toxic (and less dangerous to operator and
>>     less expensive than commercial alternatives; not naming any names
>>     here…).
>>
>>     Works ONLY ON ANNUALS; but it works (I have tested on
>>     Microstegium and Kummerowia)
>>
>>     *From:* MAIPC <maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org
>>     <mailto:maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org>> *On Behalf Of *michelskm2016
>>     *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 5:16 PM
>>     *To:* Susan Gitlin <susan.mclaughlin at alumni.stanford.edu
>>     <mailto:susan.mclaughlin at alumni.stanford.edu>>; Ben Fischler
>>     <brf57 at yahoo.com <mailto:brf57 at yahoo.com>>
>>     *Cc:* maipc at lists.maipc.org <mailto:maipc at lists.maipc.org>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [MAIPC] weed whacker plastic
>>
>>     Thr stilt grass will bloom ans seed anyway no matter how low or
>>     often you cut it. Unless you pull it. We gave up on cutting - thr
>>     only solution is to  pull it- or if you really want  to whack
>>     those old fashioned metal corrugated hand whacker are efdeceive
>>     and oh so satisfying  as you swing it like a scythre  through the
>>     nasties.
>>
>>     Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>>
>>
>>     -------- Original message --------
>>     From: Susan Gitlin <susan.mclaughlin at alumni.stanford.edu
>>     <mailto:susan.mclaughlin at alumni.stanford.edu>>
>>     Date: 9/14/18 4:54 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>     To: Ben Fischler <brf57 at yahoo.com <mailto:brf57 at yahoo.com>>
>>     Cc: maipc at lists.maipc.org <mailto:maipc at lists.maipc.org>
>>     Subject: Re: [MAIPC] weed whacker plastic
>>
>>     Yes, I guess I should have mentioned that I realized that plastic
>>     was being spread all over.  But I wonder if you have discussed
>>     the ramifications of this.  I have land that I am trying to
>>     restore, and I live in a floodplain.  What are the ramifications
>>     for soil and water?
>>
>>     On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Ben Fischler <brf57 at yahoo.com
>>     <mailto:brf57 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Little bits of plastic are spread over your landscape.
>>
>>         On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎14‎, ‎2018‎ ‎04‎:‎22‎:‎55‎ ‎PM‎
>>         ‎EDT, Susan Gitlin <susan.mclaughlin at alumni.stanford.edu
>>         <mailto:susan.mclaughlin at alumni.stanford.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>         As I spend yet another afternoon whacking stiltgrass here in
>>         Rockbridge County, Virginia, I wonder about where all the
>>         plastic from my line is going.  Is this a topic that y'all
>>         have discussed?
>>
>>         Thank you!
>>
>>         --Susan Gitlin
>>
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