[MAIPC] "alternative solution"

Sat Sep 15 14:31:18 PDT 2018

 Horticultural vinegar works great on forbs.
    On Saturday, September 15, 2018, 3:14:39 PM EDT, Milo Pyne <Milo_Pyne at natureserve.org> wrote:  

Point well taken… I have just done very limited areas in my yard…

From: Mark Frey <runcator at gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 7:04 AM
To: Milo Pyne <Milo_Pyne at natureserve.org>
Cc: michelskm2016 at gmail.com; Susan Gitlin <susan.mclaughlin at alumni.stanford.edu>; brf57 at yahoo.com; maipc at lists.maipc.org
Subject: Re: [MAIPC] "alternative solution"

Milo

I'm not sure I'd agree that your method is necessarily less toxic. Applying salt to the forest could create problems (salting the earth and all of that). You have developed a chemical solution that kills organisms; just because you bought those chemicals at the grocery store instead of the hardware store doesn't mean they are necessarily safe. 

Mark 

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 7:07 PM Milo Pyne <Milo_Pyne at natureserve.org> wrote:

I have used a solution of white vinegar (1 gal.), dish soap (1 cup), and table salt (1 TBSP); warm the vinegar to dissolve the salt; add soap; spray on plants…

This is certainly less toxic (and less dangerous to operator and less expensive than commercial alternatives; not naming any names here…).

Works ONLY ON ANNUALS; but it works (I have tested on Microstegium and Kummerowia)

From: MAIPC <maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org>On Behalf Of michelskm2016
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:16 PM
To: Susan Gitlin <susan.mclaughlin at alumni.stanford.edu>; Ben Fischler <brf57 at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [MAIPC] weed whacker plastic

Thr stilt grass will bloom ans seed anyway no matter how low or often you cut it. Unless you pull it. We gave up on cutting - thr only solution is to  pull it- or if you really want  to whack those old fashioned metal corrugated hand whacker are efdeceive and oh so satisfying  as you swing it like a scythre  through the nasties. 

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From: Susan Gitlin <susan.mclaughlin at alumni.stanford.edu>
Date: 9/14/18 4:54 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Ben Fischler <brf57 at yahoo.com>
Cc: maipc at lists.maipc.org
Subject: Re: [MAIPC] weed whacker plastic 

Yes, I guess I should have mentioned that I realized that plastic was being spread all over.  But I wonder if you have discussed the ramifications of this.  I have land that I am trying to restore, and I live in a floodplain.  What are the ramifications for soil and water?

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Ben Fischler <brf57 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Little bits of plastic are spread over your landscape.

On ‎Friday‎, ‎September‎ ‎14‎, ‎2018‎ ‎04‎:‎22‎:‎55‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, Susan Gitlin <susan.mclaughlin at alumni.stanford.edu> wrote: 

As I spend yet another afternoon whacking stiltgrass here in Rockbridge County, Virginia, I wonder about where all the plastic from my line is going.  Is this a topic that y'all have discussed?  

Thank you!

--Susan Gitlin

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