[MAIPC] MAIPC Digest, Vol 97, Issue 2

Mon Nov 4 07:38:24 PST 2019

About *oriental bittersweet;* does glyphosate work on cut vines? Garlon 3A ?
Thank you for responding.
Pia van de Venne

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>    1. Oriental bittersweet undergrowth vines (Wakeford, Anne M)
>    2. Re: Oriental bittersweet undergrowth vines (Marc Imlay)
>    3. Re: Oriental bittersweet undergrowth vines (Todd Hagenbuch)
>    4. Re: Oriental bittersweet undergrowth vines (Richard Gardner)
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> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 14:04:45 +0000
> From: "Wakeford, Anne M" <Anne.M.Wakeford at wv.gov>
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> Cc: "Vance, Joshua A" <Joshua.A.Vance at wv.gov>, Colin Carpenter
>         <ccarpenter95 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [MAIPC] Oriental bittersweet undergrowth vines
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> I?m currently working on a project at Cacapon state park in the eastern
> panhandle of West Virginia. The project involves cutting orientalist
> bittersweet vines that are growing up trees and applying garlon 4
> (triclopyr) mixed with diesel to the surface of the cut vine encircling the
> vine and to the ground.
>
> We worked on the project last weekend and plan another work trip mid
> November.
>
> The area where we are working also has numerous areas of ?undergrowth? of
> vines. I was told best to use foliar spray in late summer and then cut
> vines. However in summer lots of other underbrush and ticks and snakes.
>
> Instead can these shorter vines be killed and controlled in November?
>  If these vines are cut close to the ground if herbicide garlon 4 is
> applied will it kill the vines? How close to the ground do these
> undergrowth vines need to be cut.  How should spray be applied surface or
> all the way down to the ground?
>
> Thanks for getting back to me on this.
>
> Anne Wakeford
> WVDNR Biologist
>
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> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 09:17:03 -0500
> From: "Marc Imlay" <ialm at erols.com>
> To: "'Wakeford, Anne M'" <Anne.M.Wakeford at wv.gov>, "'MAIPC Listserve'"
>         <maipc at lists.maipc.org>
> Cc: "'Vance, Joshua A'" <Joshua.A.Vance at wv.gov>, "'Colin Carpenter'"
>         <ccarpenter95 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Oriental bittersweet undergrowth vines
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> I have found that the very small vines can be pulled out by the roots with
> volunteers successfully. This solves about half of the undergrowth problem.
> Make sure the soil is wet from recent rain, Marc Imlay
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> From: MAIPC <maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org> On Behalf Of Wakeford, Anne M
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2019 9:05 AM
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> Cc: Vance, Joshua A <Joshua.A.Vance at wv.gov>; Colin Carpenter <
> ccarpenter95 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [MAIPC] Oriental bittersweet undergrowth vines
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>
> I?m currently working on a project at Cacapon state park in the eastern
> panhandle of West Virginia. The project involves cutting orientalist
> bittersweet vines that are growing up trees and applying garlon 4
> (triclopyr) mixed with diesel to the surface of the cut vine encircling the
> vine and to the ground.
>
>
>
> We worked on the project last weekend and plan another work trip mid
> November.
>
>
>
> The area where we are working also has numerous areas of ?undergrowth? of
> vines. I was told best to use foliar spray in late summer and then cut
> vines. However in summer lots of other underbrush and ticks and snakes.
>
>
>
> Instead can these shorter vines be killed and controlled in November?
>
>  If these vines are cut close to the ground if herbicide garlon 4 is
> applied will it kill the vines? How close to the ground do these
> undergrowth vines need to be cut.  How should spray be applied surface or
> all the way down to the ground?
>
>
>
> Thanks for getting back to me on this.
>
>
>
> Anne Wakeford
>
> WVDNR Biologist
>
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> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 14:25:40 +0000
> From: Todd Hagenbuch <thagenbuch at arborchem.com>
> To: "Wakeford, Anne M" <Anne.M.Wakeford at wv.gov>, MAIPC Listserve
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> Cc: "Vance, Joshua A" <Joshua.A.Vance at wv.gov>, Colin Carpenter
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> Anne:
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> First thing I noticed is that your using diesel fuel with the Garlon 4
> Ultra.  May a suggest a more environmentally refined basal oil to go with
> the Garlon 4 Ultra(25%).  We carry Arborchem Basal Oil (75%), just about
> all veg. management herbicide distributors have a basal oil commercially
> available.  Treatment of larger stems, I would cut and leave a stub (6 inch
> or so) and treat the surface and the remaining bark on the stub.  For small
> vines, it wouldn't be necessary to remove them, you could treat the vines
> up from ground line to 12" up the vine, less for really small vines. If you
> want to see how to do proper basal and cut stump applications, please view
> my video below.  Caution should be used not to get the spray on to the bark
> of desirable trees.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEAzXaa6fX8
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>
> Best Regards,
>
> Todd Hagenbuch
> Veg Mgmt Specialist & Sales Manager
> Arborchem Products
> 137 Lydia Lane
> West Chester, PA 19382
> 570-401-7098
> www.arborchem.com
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> I?m currently working on a project at Cacapon state park in the eastern
> panhandle of West Virginia. The project involves cutting orientalist
> bittersweet vines that are growing up trees and applying garlon 4
> (triclopyr) mixed with diesel to the surface of the cut vine encircling the
> vine and to the ground.
>
> We worked on the project last weekend and plan another work trip mid
> November.
>
> The area where we are working also has numerous areas of ?undergrowth? of
> vines. I was told best to use foliar spray in late summer and then cut
> vines. However in summer lots of other underbrush and ticks and snakes.
>
> Instead can these shorter vines be killed and controlled in November?
>  If these vines are cut close to the ground if herbicide garlon 4 is
> applied will it kill the vines? How close to the ground do these
> undergrowth vines need to be cut.  How should spray be applied surface or
> all the way down to the ground?
>
> Thanks for getting back to me on this.
>
> Anne Wakeford
> WVDNR Biologist
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> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 15:08:11 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Richard Gardner <rtgardner3 at yahoo.com>
> To: MAIPC Listserve <maipc at lists.maipc.org>,  "Wakeford, Anne M"
>         <Anne.M.Wakeford at wv.gov>
> Cc: "Vance, Joshua A" <joshua.a.vance at wv.gov>,  Colin Carpenter
>         <ccarpenter95 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Oriental bittersweet undergrowth vines
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>  For smaller vines you might want to try a Pullerbear or even a long claw
> shaped pry bar.?Pullerbear Tree, Root, Sapling Puller
> I have found that pulling by hand is tough for all but the smallest vines.
> I am not sure if the remaining rootlets clone as we have had Oriental
> Bittersweet vines I cut off regenerate from the roots. We are maintaining
> an organic yard, so most pesticides are not an option. We have about 1/2
> acre of wood lot which is a nice laboratory for a lot of the ecology I do.
> If is local and invasive, we probably have it, except for Perilla
> frutescens.
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>     On Monday, November 4, 2019, 09:04:55 AM EST, Wakeford, Anne M <
> anne.m.wakeford at wv.gov> wrote:
>
>  I?m currently working on a project at Cacapon state park in the eastern
> panhandle of West Virginia. The project involves cutting orientalist
> bittersweet vines that are growing up trees and applying garlon 4
> (triclopyr) mixed with diesel to the surface of the cut vine encircling the
> vine and to the ground.
>
> We worked on the project last weekend and plan another work trip mid
> November.
>
> The area where we are working also has numerous areas of ?undergrowth? of
> vines. I was told best to use foliar spray in late summer and then cut
> vines. However in summer lots of other underbrush and ticks and snakes.
>
> Instead can these shorter vines be killed and controlled in November?
>  If these vines are cut close to the ground if herbicide garlon 4 is
> applied will it kill the vines? How close to the ground do these
> undergrowth vines need to be cut.? How should spray be applied surface or
> all the way down to the ground?
>
> Thanks for getting back to me on this.
>
> Anne Wakeford
> WVDNR Biologist
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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