[MAIPC] MAIPC Digest, Vol 120, Issue 9
Virginia Woolridge
gingerwoolridge at comcast.net
Sun Oct 3 14:56:15 PDT 2021
Nice news about cattle eating invasive exotics. Of course, cattle are non native as well.
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> I have a herd of cattle that eagerly graze Japanese Stilt grass. I strip /
> rotationally graze them and intentionally put them in Stilt grass to help
> manage it. This summer I learned they really like Mimosa trees. I cut
> some large ones in the pasture and they would strip every leaf and bloom
> from the branches and even stripped all the bark from the main trunks. The
> Mimosas were blooming but had no seed pods. I also watched them browse low
> hanging Ailanthus tree branches. They won't touch Sychamore tree
> sapplings. These cattle are in good body condition and had pasture grasses
> available to them.
> Robert Ferrell
> Amherst County, VA
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>> 1. Re: Japanese Stilt grass (jmaher55 at verizon.net)
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>> To: "'Heidi Allen'" <rundvm at gmail.com>, "'Marc Imlay'"
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>> <maipc at lists.maipc.org>, "'William Buettner Jr'"
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>> Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Japanese Stilt grass
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>> As you mention, the problem with deer, like cattle, may be the change in
>> microbes at the beginning and the end.
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>> Has anyone looked at the nutritional value of stiltgrass? It is hard to
>> believe it has any redeeming quality.
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>> Interesting thought about the goats though. They are reported to eat any
>> thing and have a lower browse line.
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>> From: MAIPC <maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org> On Behalf Of Heidi Allen
>> Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 2:51 PM
>> To: Marc Imlay <ialm at erols.com>; frazmo <frazmo at gmail.com>
>> Cc: invasives at listserv.umd.edu; MAIPC Listserve <maipc at lists.maipc.org>;
>> William Buettner Jr <wbuettner at mdot.maryland.gov>
>> Subject: Re: [MAIPC] Japanese Stilt grass
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>> I believe the deer is a ruminant. Based only on the knowledge of our
>> domestic ruminants, I would think that deer would have the ability to eat
>> and likely digest stiltgrass (or they microbes would). But, we may see
>> issues related to toxins, mineral imbalances and rapid shifts in diet. So
>> how about a slow change over using a Hosta lead concentrate?
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>> Wasn?t University of MD trying to train goats to eat stiltgrass (and not
>> other plants). Did they do OK? And, does the rumen destroy seeds?
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>> Thanks
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>> Heidi
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>> On October 1, 2021 at 9:26:40 AM, frazmo (frazmo at gmail.com <mailto:
>> frazmo at gmail.com> ) wrote:
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>> My understanding is that deer don't eat grass. They are browsers, not
>> grazers. So I don't think this could work. What is definite is that the
>> deer help to spread stiltgrass and wavyleaf.
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>> Cheers, Steve Young
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>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021, 8:32 AM Marc Imlay <ialm at erols.com <mailto:
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>> That is a great thought.
>> And when a deer has learned to like the stiltgrass it may remove it
>> elsewhere. Marc
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>> Subject: RE: [MAIPC] Japanese Stilt grass
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>> Has anyone tried to spray stilt grass with an ?attractant? that may induce
>> deer browsing? I?m not sure what deer like in the sense of taste but a
>> spray of ?sugar? may get them to at least browse the plant which from my
>> observations they appear to shy away from? Just a thought.
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>> maipc-bounces at lists.maipc.org> > On Behalf Of Marc Imlay
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>> Subject: [MAIPC] Japanese Stilt grass
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>> Today at Ruth B. Swann Park in Charles County Maryland, I came across
>> about a quarter acre that had only dead stilt grass from last year. The
>> dead stilt grass was very thick but there was no live stilt grass or any
>> other green vegetation including beefsteak plant, Perilla frutescens.
>> There was a lot of Perilla about 300 feet away.
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>> Marc Imlay
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>> From: Marc Imlay <ialm at erols.com <mailto:ialm at erols.com> >
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:16 AM
>> To: 'Kit Britton' <kitbritton at gmail.com <mailto:kitbritton at gmail.com> >
>> Subject: RE: Private: Re: Successional Change at Fraser Preserve with
>> Margaret Chatham - Thu, 03/11/2021 7:30pm-9:00pm
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>> If it kills the seedbank and you remove Perilla, the stilt grass would not
>> come up at that location the next year (unless it came in from elsewhere).
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>> From: Kit Britton <kitbritton at gmail.com <mailto:kitbritton at gmail.com> >
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 6:57 AM
>> To: Marc Imlay <ialm at erols.com <mailto:ialm at erols.com> >
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>> Margaret Chatham - Thu, 03/11/2021 7:30pm-9:00pm
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>> I don't know. I'm trying to think how to figure that out.
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>> I think if I look for the first spring/early summer growth of both
>> plants, there would be the clue. Is that right?
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>> Killing the seedbank would mean perilla comes up mostly alone except for
>> stiltgrass seed that blows in late the prior year.So maybe that would be a
>> smaller "crop". So the result is the stiltgrass that year is sparse.
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>> One thing is perilla is usually still carrying and presumably dropping
>> seed well after the stiltgrass seems finished.
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>> I will watch patches of perilla on TRI this spring/summer.
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>> Kit
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>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 8:53 AM Marc Imlay <ialm at erols.com <mailto:
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>> Does the Perilla kill the seed bank or just the emerging stiltgrass? Marc
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>> From: Kit Britton <kitbritton at gmail.com <mailto:kitbritton at gmail.com> >
>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 9:20 PM
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>> Subject: Private: Re: Successional Change at Fraser Preserve with Margaret
>> Chatham - Thu, 03/11/2021 7:30pm-9:00pm
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>>> From observation in woodlands environments at Theodore Roosevelt Island
>> and in Donaldson Run Park it appears that Perilla may have a toxic effect
>> on Japanese Stiltgrass which will not grow under the Perilla plants or is
>> very sparse. Also on a larger scale at Gambrill State Park in Maryland
>> this was obnserved last summer.
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>> Kit Britton
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>> ARMN Master Naturalist
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