[MAIPC] MAIPC Digest, Vol 91, Issue 11

Jennifer Forman Orth jformanorth at gmail.com
Fri May 10 06:50:41 PDT 2019


It was never, in my experience, a challenge to find knotweed producing seed
in Massachusetts, typically with high germinability. It was so easy, in
fact, that I was skeptical of the UK studies til I actually went to England
and met with John Bailey (sorry John, if you ever see this :-)). We have a
fair mix of *japonica* and x *bohemica* in our state, with very scattered
*sachalinensis*.

Those interested may want to read:
Viability, Growth, and Fertility of Knotweed Cytotypes in North America
(Gammon et al. 2010)
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/invasive-plant-science-and-management/article/viability-growth-and-fertility-of-knotweed-cytotypes-in-north-america/712212E56023139A6EBF81747D4B229C


Sexual reproduction in the invasive species *Fallopia japonica*
(Polygonaceae)
(Forman and Kesseli, 2003)
https://bsapubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.3732/ajb.90.4.586

- Jenn
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Jennifer Forman Orth, Ph.D.
Environmental Biologist
http://www.KnottyBits.com <http://www.knottybits.com/>
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On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 8:24 AM Young, Steve (DEC) <steve.young at dec.ny.gov>
wrote:

> There needs to be a lot more study of what is going on with male and
> female plants of knotweed. There are many instances of larger male plants
> growing right next to smaller female plants and some say that they are male
> and female of Reynoutria japonica and others say they are R. japonica and
> R. x bohemica. Why would R. x bohemica grow right next to japonica so
> often? The articles on genetic work in the northeast are lacking and, in my
> opinion, the whole fertile vs. infertile question needs more study before
> we can say just what is going on.
>
> Steve Young
> Chief Botanist
> NY Natural Heritage Program
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>        1. Re: [External]  Slate Article on Japanese Knotweed
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>     Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 21:28:55 +0000
>     From: "Richards, Christina" <clr at usf.edu>
>     To: "Muth, Norris  (MUTH)" <MUTH at juniata.edu>, MAIPC Listserve
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>     Could be. But since its female it could also be pollinated by the
> hybrid R x bohemica.
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>     Christina Richards, Ph.D.
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>     From: Muth, Norris (MUTH) <MUTH at juniata.edu>
>     Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:16 PM
>     To: Richards, Christina; MAIPC Listserve
>     Subject: Re: [MAIPC] [External] Slate Article on Japanese Knotweed
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>     Makes sense. I?ve seen Norway maples produce pounds and pounds of
> sterile fruits.
>
>     If the major knotweed clone is female but produces lots of seed (at
> least occasionally) - is it likely that the seed is produced by apomixis?
>
>     ?
>     Norris Z. Muth, Ph.D.
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>     From: Richards, Christina <clr at usf.edu>
>     Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 4:15 PM
>     To: MAIPC Listserve; Muth, Norris (MUTH); Melissa Bravo
>     Subject: Re: [MAIPC] [External] Slate Article on Japanese Knotweed
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>     Hi!
>
>     Many plants make flowers that never produce seeds, but we did find
> many that had tons of seeds. We tried to germinate seeds and it didn't work
> at all. I also have no experience finding seedlings in nature though we saw
> tons of seeds on some plants.  I'm not aware of others that have been able
> to grow them from seeds, but I haven't looked very hard.
>
>     I'm sure that probably the hybrids (between R. japonica and R.
> sachilinensis originally, but now called R. x bohemica) can make a ton of
> pollen (our R. japonica is only female), but they have also plenty of
> resources, they don't need a reason to make pollen or seeds. Thinking "it
> would not be worth it to the plant ecologically speaking to bother
> producing seeds if not for some season where it would be beneficial" is
> ignoring the reality of the plant. There's no reason not to make seeds and
> pollen even if almost all of them are not successful. It seems spread by
> rhizome works REALLY well, AND they are not limited by resources so can be
> truly wasteful in terms of producing pollen and seed. If only some small
> fraction is ever successful it can have hardly any or even no benefit when
> the plant is so successful at clonal spread. In essence, it doesn't have to
> be efficient. They make pollen and seeds because they can. Maybe sometimes
> it could be evolutionarily beneficial, but probably not
>      required.
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>     Does that make sense?
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>     Christina Richards, Ph.D.
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>     From: Melissa Bravo <bravomelissa at yahoo.com>
>     Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 1:17 PM
>     To: MAIPC Listserve; Richards, Christina; Muth, Norris (MUTH)
>     Subject: Re: [MAIPC] [External] Slate Article on Japanese Knotweed
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>     ? I see pollen production on knotweed at my place, the bees love it.
> And I've always seen seed pods - so it would not be worth it to the plant
> ecologically speaking to bother producing seeds if not for some season
> where it would be beneficial  - - seasonal triggers often do not get
> captured in one year, two year small site studies..
>
>     but I did not read the article... just two -centencing- here lol.
>
>     Melissa A. Bravo, M.S. CCA, Agronomist
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>     On Thursday, May 9, 2019, 12:50:22 PM EDT, Muth, Norris (MUTH) <
> MUTH at juniata.edu> wrote:
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>     There?s some knotweed hybridization which implies at least pollen
> production - and quite likely seed production. But the lack of genetic
> variability argues for clonal spread only. It?s sort of a similar story to
> Phragmites australis. Christina Richards - cited in the article - would
> likely know for sure.
>
>     What do you say Dr. Richards? Viable seed production at all?
>
>     ?
>     Norris Z. Muth, Ph.D.
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>     I don?t think there?s much evidence of seed production, although I
> recall someone studying the genetics of knotweed- Norris, do you recall
> that study?
>
>
>
>     Knotweed is difficult to kill, but there?s some tricks to it (mowing
> it down first, letting it regrow, then spraying it)? and you have to keep
> after the patches. It?s got a really strong root system, and once it gets
> started in a disturbed area (due to a root fragment moving in during
> disturbance) subsequent disturbances make it hard to get other species
> established.
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>     Read this article if you want to experience real terror...
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>     And two questions for possible discussion:
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>     1. Do MAIPC listserv readers find JK as hard to kill as described in
> the article?
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>     2. I have seen isolated plants come up in some odd places. Does anyone
> know whether there is any evidence of JK spreading by seeds in our
> mid-Atlantic area?
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>     Cheers,   Steve Young, Arlington VA volunteer
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